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Post by daniel, why on Mar 29, 2018 18:11:14 GMT -6
We got some fanboi ping pong up in here between Nick P & mike and all I can think about are drukhari color schemes that would jive with my daemonettes.
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Post by Joelercoaster on Mar 29, 2018 19:36:51 GMT -6
I'm really interested to see how the HQ's pan out - I think the Archon in particular has such potential. Great CC Character, completely lackluster weapons. Really awkward mix. Hopeful for at least a relic weapon that gives us a solid AP-3.
Shoot, what if the soul trap comes back as a cool piece of kit?
Guessing the Obsessions will be per detachment, making the "take 3 patrols" the hard go-to. Although the Poisoned Tongue (or whatever - re-roll 1's in combat and with poison shooting) would be fine for Cult units. I just lack any Coven troops, so the "one of each" thing doesn't gel with me much.
Anyway. We'll know soon enough I guess!
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Post by Nick P on Mar 30, 2018 7:28:01 GMT -6
The fact that they're giving options like the blast pistol to the succubus means they're breaking away from the "what's in the box" options for models - which is great. Let people convert models, its part of the hobby.
And if they're doing it for her, they're probably doing it for the other units too to a degree - so trueborn with shard carbines might be back (I hope!), and maybe juuuuust maybe we'll be able to put an archon on a bike or (GASP!) give him scourge wings!!
A guy can dream
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Post by Nick P on Mar 30, 2018 7:29:17 GMT -6
I'm really interested to see how the HQ's pan out - I think the Archon in particular has such potential. Great CC Character, completely lackluster weapons. Really awkward mix. Hopeful for at least a relic weapon that gives us a solid AP-3. Shoot, what if the soul trap comes back as a cool piece of kit? Guessing the Obsessions will be per detachment, making the "take 3 patrols" the hard go-to. Although the Poisoned Tongue (or whatever - re-roll 1's in combat and with poison shooting) would be fine for Cult units. I just lack any Coven troops, so the "one of each" thing doesn't gel with me much. Anyway. We'll know soon enough I guess! The problem with the obsessions is that it sounds like they don't all replace the same keyword - so the Poisoned Tongue is a <kabal> keyword, which wyches don't have - so you'd have to take a detachment of kabbalites with the <poisoned tongue> and then a detachment of wyches with <cult of strife> or whatever in order to be battle forged.
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Post by cj on Mar 30, 2018 9:21:19 GMT -6
Can I paint someone’s incubi? I like the models and think they would be fun.
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Post by Nick P on Mar 30, 2018 9:27:04 GMT -6
I might be getting some more that you could paint CJ, I have 5 finecast and 5 metal, and I think I want to replace the metal ones because they keep snapping. I'll keep you posted
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Post by Nick P on Mar 30, 2018 9:29:18 GMT -6
PS - www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/30/codex-drukhari-preview-stratagemsgw-homepage-post-3/So Dark Eldar have the first stratagem in the game that can cancel someone else's stratagem at a key moment in the game. That's huge! I think you'll see a lot of Kabal of the Black Heart patrols just for that stratagem alone. Imagine negating the admech stratagem that lets them overwatch at full BS - or the stratagem that lets you auto-pass morale, or interrupt the fight phase, or reroll a crucial save or damage roll - or hell, the roll for Guillaman getting back up after dying the first time. It can be totally nasty! I just wish it was tomorrow already so I could preorder and start watching all the preview videos on youtube - come on time, move faster!
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Post by Russell on Mar 30, 2018 10:01:33 GMT -6
oof that's pretty nasty. It's 3 CP though and has the small chance to not work at all. Still, when this gets inevitably dropped on me imma get hella pouty. Unless it fails then I'll get super smug.
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Mar 30, 2018 10:23:21 GMT -6
oof that's pretty nasty. It's 3 CP though and has the small chance to not work at all. Still, when this gets inevitably dropped on me imma get hella pouty. Unless it fails then I'll get super smug. I can't wait to see it fail after a command reroll.
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Post by Nick P on Mar 30, 2018 12:02:47 GMT -6
Yeah I figure you only use it if you SUPER need it to fail, so you spend 4 CP to get the denial and the reroll to try to get the 2+ if you end up rolling a 1. But with the ability to get CP back for both your AND your opponent's stratagems, and with the ability for this army to run really cheap battalions or even brigades, you might have enough CP to burn that it becomes a staple. I certainly won't be building armies around it though, that's for sure.
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Post by Russell on Mar 30, 2018 12:13:57 GMT -6
I certainly won't be building armies around it though, that's for sure.
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Post by cj on Mar 30, 2018 12:32:18 GMT -6
I certainly won't be building armies around it though, that's for sure. I'm quoting this to like it again
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Post by Nick P on Mar 30, 2018 13:09:29 GMT -6
I really like the Obsidian Rose trait - extra range on all of my weapons is huge, so I'm going to be focused more on triple ravager and 5-man with blaster in venom type armies, probably with a detachment of wyches/hellions with the +1 S trait.
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Post by mike on Mar 30, 2018 14:32:58 GMT -6
I really like the Obsidian Rose trait - extra range on all of my weapons is huge, so I'm going to be focused more on triple ravager and 5-man with blaster in venom type armies, probably with a detachment of wyches/hellions with the +1 S trait. I'm with Nick on this except I like Flayed Skull more than Rose. I doubt I'll have room for agents of vect/the command point battery, but it's definitely good. Black Heart's bonus is just not as flashy as rerolls to hit/movement range bonuses given the current pfp table. List will likely be 2 battalions, one strength wyches, one flayed skull kabalites. Wyches (Cursed Blade): - Exploding Succubus w/ Glaive + Blast Pistol x 2
- Wyches (10) w/ Blast Pistol, Agonizer, Wych Weapons, Raider
- Wyches (5) w/ Blast Pistol, Agonizer, Raider x 2
Kabalites (Flayed Skull): - Archon w/ Agonizer + Blaster x 2
- Incubi (5) w/ Raider -> Could be grotesques or court depending on what ends up being the most stylish
- Kabalites (5) w/ Blaster, Venom x 3
- Ravager x 3
Any remaining points will be jet bikes.
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Post by mike on Mar 30, 2018 14:35:30 GMT -6
I also feel like agents of vect is the kind of rule you don't see activate all that much even though its having a huge impact on the game. Like CJ can't commit to the turn 1 deep strike assault with his khorne demons against those pesky agents so they'll get deployed via a different means.
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