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Post by Nick P on Sept 14, 2014 16:21:13 GMT -6
Just found this on Dakka: Next week's white dwarf - new plastic haemonculus clampack, and those are in fact plastic Wracks finally. Codex and these two boxes up for pre-order Sep 20, for release Sep 27. Rumor has it we'll be getting a voidraven, and 1-2 other kits. Not sure if we're getting a new codex entry or not, SW got the flyer and the chariot, Orks got the Morkonaught, but GK didn't get any...so we'll see. Very excited! Can't wait to add some of these coven models to my army, especially if they make them viable in the shoot first, combat later ruleset of 6.5/7.
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Post by Nick P on Sept 14, 2014 18:13:59 GMT -6
The only thing that I'm frustrated with is that the rumored cost of the wracks is 29GBP and the haemy is 20GBP...which is $47 for 5 wracks and $31 for a single haemy... I'm personally hoping that for $47 you get the 5-pack of wracks with the option to build one as a haemy. But that's just a pipe dream in all likelihood
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Post by Russell on Sept 14, 2014 19:05:38 GMT -6
I guess that basically eliminates the need to pre order anything. Gotta wait on the rules, I suppose.
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Post by Russell on Sept 15, 2014 8:32:58 GMT -6
So, seriously, what does the Dark Eldar book need that it doesn't have already? Because it seems like a pretty solid book, or Mike just has loaded dice and manages to win all the time.
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Post by T1m on Sept 15, 2014 8:42:58 GMT -6
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Post by Russell on Sept 15, 2014 9:28:55 GMT -6
I fucking knew it.
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Post by Nick P on Sept 15, 2014 9:46:50 GMT -6
Honestly the book is pretty solid, I'm more worried about them ruining it than making it better. Some predictions based on early rumors from ppl who have read the WD: - more expensive transports (already like 65-75 points for a raider or venom...not nearly as survivable as say a wave serpent, so how high can they go without getting tougher?)
- removing the FOC changes (ie, hellions and wracks can't become troops based on HQ buys)
- obviously removing the special characters (Drazhar stays in, Lelith stay in, Vect stays in, Urien stays in, since they have models/are rumored to be getting new ones in vect's case)
There is rumored to be a DE supplement coming in 3 weeks too, focusing on wyches, so we'll see how they split up the official dex. Take wyches out completely and make them a separate thing? Or just have a supplement focused on Lelith's wych cult?
Honestly I just hope that elites get a little cheaper, vehicles get a little tougher if they increase points, decent warlord traits, and drugs that we can actually use since half of the current drug list is invalidated by 6th/7th special rules like fleet.
If they make mandrakes workable, I will literally shit my pants with joy. Something like shrouded, being able to infiltrate within 1" like lictors uses to. Would be awesome, they have such beautiful models.
Rumor that we will get a version of battle focus, as well as the Ancient Doom eldar rules. Makes sense, we fear slaanesh, and since we've been training just as long as craftworld eldar why shouldn't we have the discipline to shoot/run or run/shoot? Stupid goody two shoes.
Oh, and things like the splinter cannon will likely go to Salvo 4/6 instead of heavy 6 assault 4, which would mean that kabalite squads with a cannon would be making tough choices on whether to move before shooting, and won't be able to make assaults afterward. Likewise, would severely limit the usefulness of scourges - but there are worse things in the world, and if it makes people feel like DE are more balanced without really crippling us, I'm into that.
Time will tell, I'm sure we'll see more info from the WD as we move through the week. And if anyone wants to get a game in on Saturday the 27th, I will be eager as hell to try out the new book and see what's broken and what got broke.
Speaking of - if I order the book from Wanderers, does she get them in Friday or Saturday? I'm never pre-ordering from GW again, since they actually don't ship the damn things until the monday after they come out. Weak.
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Post by T1m on Sept 15, 2014 10:21:24 GMT -6
I've preordered a few things from Wanderers and they all have come in on Friday.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 10:32:15 GMT -6
Personally, I'd like to see the Shooting power of DE toned down somewhat, but I'd love to see their assault capability go up. Maybe instead of battle focus, DE could get 5th edition fleet. I'd love to see a real 7th edition assault army.
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Post by Nick P on Sept 15, 2014 12:03:10 GMT -6
Will I would love that as well - but with overwatch still being a thing, it just means our 6+ save infantry get shot to death on turn 2's assault phase instead of turn 3 or 4's. Plus, if they were going to make ANY army combat based, it stands to reason it would have been tyranids. Alas, the kabalite shooty lists are likely to stay in power as the most competitive DE build. Our shooting is pretty strong, but not more so than anything else; think of alpha striking space marines, tau gun lines, guard with their 65 point wyverns, eldar wave serpents...its all super powerful. Shooting is the way of 40k, no getting around it - and if we're going to be as easy to kill as we are with AV10 and 6+ saves at T3, we had better be able to dish out some pain before we go. Also, this just in from someone on warseer with the WD in hand...no preorders for a codex. So wracks and new haemy, with a spoiler for the void raven to be pre-ordered on the 27th, but nothing about a codex in the book. Here's hoping it'll be availabe for pre-orders on the 27th as well...but if this is like Orks where they didn't get their new book till 3 weeks into the release, I'm going to be extremely frustrated. Here I've got about 20 warriors ready to be built, but without the new book I'm afraid to put them together just yet.
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Post by mike on Sept 15, 2014 12:16:57 GMT -6
I find rolling 6's 70% of the time to be the way of 40k.
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Post by mike on Sept 15, 2014 12:18:14 GMT -6
Is there anything more Dark Eldar than playing with loaded dice?
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Post by mike on Sept 15, 2014 12:19:34 GMT -6
Dice loaded with dick spikes maybe.
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Post by mike on Sept 15, 2014 12:32:39 GMT -6
My venom rolled 10 hits, 1 miss, and 1 cutting my hand open with dick spikes. I win.
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Post by Russell on Sept 15, 2014 12:42:33 GMT -6
did that need four seperate posts?
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