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Post by Eric formerly Eric on May 15, 2017 8:18:23 GMT -6
Longtime marine players: do you like this? As someone who got back into ultramarines last year, I don't like the idea that they are essentially creating a new type of space marine that will seemingly get new-kit support from here on. Marks of armor are one thing but there is no indication that any new mk7 kits are coming. I get that there will be rules support, but it just feels like my army is slowly being phased out in favor of unnecessary new kits. We just had new kits like 2 years ago. Where are the sisters, etc?
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 8:36:44 GMT -6
This is just GWs way of getting marines to a truescale without needing to invalidate the original line of models. On the one hand, yeah you'll likely see little or no support for the older marks moving forward, but, I think it is really good for marines and the look of the game. In particular I love the idea of only needing half the number of models to run a full armylist. When I think of space marines I always think of the stories and games where 5 marines subdue a planet with minimal support. You've never been able to field anything like that on the tabletop, but the Primaris seems to be a step in that direction.
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Post by Nick P on May 15, 2017 9:07:29 GMT -6
Fuck these are cool, holy shit. Definitely going to get at least a box and kitbash some thousand sons characters...or just you know start playing my thousand sons as a loyalist off shoot that got stuck in the warp and now fight for Gulliman to restore their legions tarnished name...
Also redemptor dreadnought? I want to see what this guy looks like!!!
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Post by Nick P on May 15, 2017 9:19:46 GMT -6
Also the bolt rifle they carry is 30" rapid fire S4 ap-1. So basically a s4 ap4 pulse rifle (in 7th terms)
What do we think, 3+ armor still or a 2+ armor save? T5? S5? What is going to set them apart from normal marines?
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 9:25:13 GMT -6
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Post by Joelercoaster on May 15, 2017 9:52:30 GMT -6
You think this is the "new faction" that's been talked about? Or do you think we'll be looking at something a little more unique?
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Post by Russell on May 15, 2017 10:02:06 GMT -6
or just you know start playing my thousand sons as a loyalist off shoot that got stuck in the warp and now fight for Gulliman to restore their legions tarnished name...
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Post by vaktimusprime on May 15, 2017 10:16:51 GMT -6
While these seem cool(and I will probably buy em). I just bought into Blood Angels and I kinda feel like all those sweet BA models are going to look lame next to these new dudes which aren't even chapter specific.
Kinda jazzed to see what new stuff the xenos get eventually to go against these dudes.
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on May 15, 2017 10:33:21 GMT -6
I get moving to a new model/armor mark. And no doubt they look sweet. But if there now is a separate primaris profile for Devastators, sternguard, Bikers, etc that renders regular old marines useless, I'm gonna be pissed. I'd rather they just use the new armor mark with the same profile, but instead they have more attacks, wounds and a better gun. If it becomes a niche super fighting force like deathwatch, that'll be cool. But if they barely cost more than regular marines, I cant help but feel I wasted a ton of money this past year.
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Post by T1m on May 15, 2017 10:34:47 GMT -6
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Post by Russell on May 15, 2017 10:37:29 GMT -6
Looks like a better gun and one extra wound / attack. eeeehhhhhhh
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Post by Russell on May 15, 2017 10:37:47 GMT -6
Rather bring terminators
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Post by jesse on May 15, 2017 10:47:22 GMT -6
Rainbow Warriors confirmed.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 10:53:45 GMT -6
I'd generally agree. I suspect Intercessors clock in a 15-16 pts per model, but they lack the versatility of the terminator deepstrike. Will have to wait and see though.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 10:56:05 GMT -6
In other news, Frag and Krak grenades look hella useful. You are going to be able to peel wounds from a variety of targets with either grenade.
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