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Post by Nick P on May 12, 2017 11:27:42 GMT -6
Its basically an undedicated "side board" so you can customize your army as the game progresses. I think you'll see some decent daemon armies that maybe go 1000 on the board, 1000 left to summon, and then just summon the best stuff based on what their opponent brought to the game, to essentially be tailored every battle. Granted summoning might be tough, might be easier to defend against, etc, but that seems pretty powerful still, which is a good compromise for forcing daemon players to pay for their summoning rather than just letting them double the army for free.
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Post by Asyrean on May 12, 2017 12:23:36 GMT -6
Say you leave 1000pts of your army for summoning, and then the units you summon subsequently die. Do those points go back into your pool, and so you could summon again? Or is it a one and done kind of mechanic? How does it work in AoS?
Just curious. I really like this mechanic. Summoning armies are more balanced, but still terrifying. They can customize their list on the fly! Very cool.
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Post by Joelercoaster on May 12, 2017 12:23:48 GMT -6
As far as I can tell it'll work like it does now (when you cast a power that summons, you have a selection of stuff to bring in) except probably even more open - I would guess any faction that summons (GSC, Deamons) will have a specific "summon" power, and if you cast it you can bring on anything that you still have the points to pay for.
So basically a massive swiss army knife of "I really need this vs this opponent/build".
Que me already thinking about how to design a Summoning App to keep track of your leftover points, and suggested squads to summon with them...
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Post by Russell on May 12, 2017 12:27:16 GMT -6
Que me already thinking about how to design a Summoning App to keep track of your leftover points
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Post by Russell on May 12, 2017 12:27:28 GMT -6
I think you've been scooped
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Post by 1D3chan on May 12, 2017 12:53:12 GMT -6
Nice, this is great. They were very underwhelming, as were Banshees. Looks like Banshees will be over riding the strike first on the charge thing. Really looking forward to playing with these staples again! Hopefully Harlequins and DE get some real nasty stuff. I bet Harlies are the faction that get to shoot / charge the same turn they fall back from combat. Or just get extra slippery in combat with holo suits, something.
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Post by Nick P on May 12, 2017 14:32:36 GMT -6
Say you leave 1000pts of your army for summoning, and then the units you summon subsequently die. Do those points go back into your pool, and so you could summon again? Or is it a one and done kind of mechanic? How does it work in AoS? Just curious. I really like this mechanic. Summoning armies are more balanced, but still terrifying. They can customize their list on the fly! Very cool. No, those points are gone once used. Its basically the same as putting units in reserves - with the added bonus that you don't have to decide what those points *are* until you actually summon them. So rather than taking a unit of pink horrors, a unit of screamers, and a blood thirster and putting them into your "summoning" pool - you just put aside 1000 points, and *at the time you summon* you can say "I really need a great unclean one right now" and plop one down. Or "I'm getting surrounded, I need some flamers of tzeentch to clear this out", etc. Its basically wild-card reserves. But the total points spent for the game is still 1500 or 2000 or whatever you agree on with your opponent, no free units just for having a weird faction.
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Post by rogerspacem on May 12, 2017 19:09:08 GMT -6
So my daemons aren't so op but rather more versatile? I approve
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 10:07:44 GMT -6
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Post by Nick P on May 14, 2017 15:02:53 GMT -6
Also thinking these can get really fluffy for each faction - for nids, maybe synapse creatures add CPs? Maybe only units in synapse range can be the target of a stratagem? Would be really cool to see them be the preeminent "stratagem" army due to the complete and utter control of the hive mind when in synapse range.
I CAN'T WAIT I JUST WANT MY NIDS TO BE FUN AGAIN also give us plastic shrikes so I can buy 9 of them kthx
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Post by Joelercoaster on May 14, 2017 15:47:06 GMT -6
Technically you can buy plastic shrikes, because currently shrikes do not have wings/jetpacks/anything under their description (aside from fluff, of course).
I mean, it's a horribly cheeky thing, but you can just plop "hopping warriors" down and play them as Shrikes. Or use "burrowing not-raveners". Etc.
In real news, I'm gonna try to track down where I got the wings I use, they were pretty cheap and are a decent size for a warrior-sized model.
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Post by Nick P on May 14, 2017 21:42:11 GMT -6
If they don't come up with a kit soon and nids are good again I'll just use Vargheist wings
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 8:07:45 GMT -6
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Post by daniel, why on May 15, 2017 8:10:46 GMT -6
!!!
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Post by Russell on May 15, 2017 8:17:36 GMT -6
I mean yeah I'm gonna buy them
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