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Post by armondhammer on Jun 23, 2016 15:54:19 GMT -6
Yeah it should be interesting... I'm actually trying to look up about Skyfire and jet bikes now... I'll be at the shop on Tuesday.
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Post by 1D3chan on Jun 23, 2016 23:30:07 GMT -6
Yeah it should be interesting... I'm actually trying to look up about Skyfire and jet bikes now... I'll be at the shop on Tuesday. Skyfire hits jetbikes and skimmers with normal BS
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Post by armondhammer on Jun 24, 2016 0:10:25 GMT -6
Yeah it should be interesting... I'm actually trying to look up about Skyfire and jet bikes now... I'll be at the shop on Tuesday. Skyfire hits jetbikes and skimmers with normal BS Really? Where does it say this?
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Post by 1D3chan on Jun 24, 2016 10:26:05 GMT -6
Skyfire hits jetbikes and skimmers with normal BS Really? Where does it say this? My mistake friendo, I was getting it confused with the new Air and Ground Targets special rule in Death From The Skies (Rightfully so) It appears right now, the Skyfire USR hits Flyers, FMC, FGC and Skimmers at full BS But for units listed in Death from the Skies with the Fighter Profile, who can attack 'Air Targets' at Full BS, that list is Flyers, FMC, FGC, Skimmers AND jetbikes. Sorry for the confusion but really it's GWs saying sorry
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Post by armondhammer on Jun 24, 2016 12:15:14 GMT -6
Really? Where does it say this? My mistake friendo, I was getting it confused with the new Air and Ground Targets special rule in Death From The Skies (Rightfully so) It appears right now, the Skyfire USR hits Flyers, FMC, FGC and Skimmers at full BS But for units listed in Death from the Skies with the Fighter Profile, who can attack 'Air Targets' at Full BS, that list is Flyers, FMC, FGC, Skimmers AND jetbikes. Sorry for the confusion but really it's GWs saying sorry I wonder if it will be Errataed?.. it kinda makes sense for Jetbikes to be hit by skyfire.
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Post by Nick P on Jun 24, 2016 13:55:44 GMT -6
...Not really? Jetbikes are hovering feet above the ground, not soaring through the skies a mile overhead; skimmers, in my mind, hardly make sense - but the fact that most of them *can* be used as entry craft through the atmosphere fluffwise, I get it. Jetbikes though, absolutely not, doubt that will happen.
If they make jetbikes hit by skyfire, then they may as well throw Jump-anything and jetpacks into the mix.
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Post by 1D3chan on Jun 24, 2016 15:04:03 GMT -6
...Not really? Jetbikes are hovering feet above the ground, not soaring through the skies a mile overhead; skimmers, in my mind, hardly make sense - but the fact that most of them *can* be used as entry craft through the atmosphere fluffwise, I get it. Jetbikes though, absolutely not, doubt that will happen. If they make jetbikes hit by skyfire, then they may as well throw Jump-anything and jetpacks into the mix. I can see that point of view, but as it is now, GW is kind of floundering inbetween. In DftS they are classifying jetbikes as Air Targets, that very easily could be a precurser to a change in Skyfire to include them. I don't know how hashed out in fluff they are, but I always saw jetbikes and skimmers as often manoeuvring well abovery a few feet off the ground. They ignore entire vertical distances in game, so they are scaling 50-70 foot buildings in one movement phase. I see your point about jump infantry too though. If Sky fire did hit them eventually, it certainly wouldn't be the dumbest rule they ever made.
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Post by Nick P on Jun 27, 2016 6:40:45 GMT -6
I think its important to note that Death From The Skies doesn't label them under the skyfire special rule - it only labels them as Air Targets vs Ground Targets for determining if Attack Fighters/Fighters have bonuses/penalties to hit them, respectively.
So far, they only count as "air targets" for flyers using the Death From the Skies supplement for the purposes of the +1 BS from strafing run for Attack Fighters nor are they affected by the -1 BS for targeting ground targets by Fighters.
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Post by 1D3chan on Jun 27, 2016 10:41:24 GMT -6
Absolutely, that's the exact point I was trying to make by saying they were floundering between the two. I agree 100%, Apologies it it wasn't clear.
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Post by dennish on Jun 27, 2016 11:34:20 GMT -6
Having faced a list very similar to this one plenty of times..all I can say...BRUTAL.. at least against my AM. Since most of my lists contain plenty of armor I see a lot of my tanks disintegrate by turn 2...
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Post by armondhammer on Jun 30, 2016 16:10:50 GMT -6
Tweaking the list a bit... taking out the knight Gallent for 6 Kataphron Breachers w/ Heavy Arc Rifles and Hydraulic Claws and 1 more Dragoon. What do yall think?
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Post by Nick P on Jun 30, 2016 16:13:58 GMT -6
Still gud
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Post by armondhammer on Jul 7, 2016 8:46:47 GMT -6
So the War Convocation suffered a loss last night... proving that Knights just really aren't as good as people think they are.
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Post by Russell on Jul 7, 2016 8:57:14 GMT -6
So the War Convocation suffered a loss last night... proving that Knights just really aren't as good as people think they are.
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Post by Nick P on Jul 7, 2016 9:20:08 GMT -6
So the War Convocation suffered a loss last night... proving that Knights just really aren't as good as people think they are. That's not at all what that says haha it says that a competitive daemon summoning list can compete with the War Convo
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