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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 13:29:18 GMT -6
The things that have caused me to lose are a Wraithknight, a Knight Titan, a Ghostkeel, and an Ork Warboss with a 2+ re-rollable. In all four of those losing games I lost because I couldn't shift those models off of an objective. I know Vanguard won't patch that, but I think the Grav devs will.
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Post by dex on Apr 20, 2016 13:32:03 GMT -6
I think you are really looking for grav cents or grav bikers. Grav devs are squishy
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 13:36:10 GMT -6
I think you are really looking for grav cents or grav bikers. Grav devs are squishy I'd agree completely, I have rather limited options for access to grav in the Pinion Demi-Company which is the down side. I can only really take grav on tacticals or devastators. I put a terminator captain in with the devastastors just to tank a few extra wounds.
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Post by dex on Apr 20, 2016 14:01:49 GMT -6
I'm not familiar with all the fiddly bits there but a term captain and grav devs are not very mobile and still squishy and expensive as hell. So no bike and no grav cents? How many points is that squad?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 14:33:54 GMT -6
I'm not familiar with all the fiddly bits there but a term captain and grav devs are not very mobile and still squishy and expensive as hell. So no bike and no grav cents? How many points is that squad? Um, with the captain they come out to 260 pts. The formation lets them outflank, roll to come in from reserves on turn 1, shrouded on turn 1, ignore cover on their weapons, and stealth on the turn they arrive from reserves.
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Post by Nick P on Apr 21, 2016 15:26:28 GMT -6
You're basically banking on them coming in turn 1, killing a big guy, then hoping to stay alive long enough to be even more useful I'm assuming? Is there a formation that allows you to bring Grav Cents, without having to include them in your Pinion Company?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2016 15:35:22 GMT -6
You're basically banking on them coming in turn 1, killing a big guy, then hoping to stay alive long enough to be even more useful I'm assuming? Is there a formation that allows you to bring Grav Cents, without having to include them in your Pinion Company? Nope, only formation that exists lets you bring Assault Centurions. I'm hoping the 2+ cover from shrouded and stealth with provide them some amount of protection. Just running it math hammer, it should take 48 wounds to wipe them out. I wish I could take centurions over devs though. You can in a normal battle-company.
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Post by Dougtrio on Apr 21, 2016 21:04:46 GMT -6
Can you give vanguard vets a melta bomb each? I think honor guard used to be able to do that...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2016 22:49:02 GMT -6
Can you give vanguard vets a melta bomb each? I think honor guard used to be able to do that... Yes, they can take them for the low price of 5 pts a model. Its certainly worth spending the points if they are spare.
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Post by dex on Apr 22, 2016 12:01:00 GMT -6
I really think that you are spending a lot of points for something that is going to die really quick. That said I don't know what else in your army kills those big buggers fast enough at range.
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Post by englishchris on May 17, 2016 2:11:20 GMT -6
I thought the way forward with Vanguard vets was with the Annihilation Skyhammer formation? That said, if you're going to pimp them out with Storm shield and power axes (or power fists/thunder hammers) to combat MCs or Tanks, then one thing I've seen used down under, is a squad of 10 assault termies, mostly TH&SS, with a librarian so they can fly 18" and be right up in your grill. I have seen imperial knights back away from that (the guy also gave them a sanguinary priest so they have feel no pain funsies).
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Post by Dougtrio on May 22, 2016 22:24:53 GMT -6
Omg englishchris has risen from the ashes. Let us know when both you and your girl get dream jobs in sunny and totally incorruptible Chicago.
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