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Post by dex on Jan 5, 2016 10:04:57 GMT -6
Well we are 6ish weeks out, which means we probably need to finalize our lists so any last minute painting can get done, display board etc.
Any thoughts?
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Post by Nick P on Jan 5, 2016 10:32:07 GMT -6
I think we can all agree that flyrants with dakka and electroshock grubs are going to be the go-to HQ, but FW units are 0-1 per TEAM, so only one of us gets to bring a malanthrope.
So what its going to come down to is, what do we want to do with the rest of the list? Drop pods full of gants/MCs? minimum troops in favor of more flyers in the fast attack slot? How do we feel about Exocrines for more AP2? Does anyone want to bring a formation (0-1 per team) or fortification (0-1 per team)?
I feel like we should all take roughly similar lists, to keep the consistency in each game at a maximum, something like:
Player 1:
HQ: Flyrant, 2x TL Devourers, electroshock Troop: 20 termagants (15/5 devourers/fleshborer), 20 termagants (15/5) Fast: Crone Heavy: Exocrine 2x Tyrannocyte
Player 2: (+1 FA slot)
HQ: Flyrant Troop: 3 DS rippers Elite: 3 hive guard Fast: Crone, Crone Heavy: Exocrine
Player 3: (+1 Formation)
HQ: Flyrant Troops: 3 rippers DS Fast: Crone Heavy: Exocrine Formation: Living Artillery Node
Player 4: (+1 Heavy)
HQ: Flyrant Troops: 20 termagants Elite: Malanthrope Fast: Crone Heavy: Exocrine, Exocrine 2x tyrant guard (mini fex!)
This means that no matter what happens, we have 2x flyrants, 2x crones, and 2x exocrines on each board - thats a lot of S6 and S7, and 8 haywire missiles + 2 haywire templates to help against opposing Knights and GMCs, and the LaN and +1 Heavy list come stock with 2 exocrines, meaning there could be 3 or 4 exocrines on the board at a given time.
Then each list has either drop pod devourer gants, deep striking rippers, or a termagant screen + malanthrope to help grab objectives.
I mean I'm obviously just giving my first thought, and its a slow day at work lol what do you guys think? And also, we still need a 4th since Russell hasn't given me the 100% that he's into it. Maybe Craig, since he also plays Nids?
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Post by jefferestinpeace on Jan 5, 2016 10:45:52 GMT -6
I think we should use our Forgeworld slot for a Barbie, or is that too expensive? Did we already go over that? Malanthropes are the shit of course, but we might need that firepower. However, argument might be moot.
I like Crones, but I don't think they're all that good. Haywire is cool, but they're going to miss a lot. We'd be better off ignoring/tarpitting Knights rather than really going after them. I do like Exocrines though, but think Mawlocs do arguably the same thing better. We should have at least two of us do the Lictor/Mawloc thing. And Gargoyles really aren't bad, with a 6+ Blind attack, good board coverage, and quick movement.
I think the Skytyrant formation is better than the LAN for the current meta as well.
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Post by Nick P on Jan 5, 2016 12:47:56 GMT -6
Has to be 500 points, so barbie is out (mother fuckers). We can have multiple FW units, but each one is 0-1 - so 1 malanthrope, 1 dimachearon, 1 stonecrusher, 1 meiotic spore, etc.
Skytyrant I think works better than LAN as well, agreed; just throwing it out as an example since I know its one of the more popular formations. Death Leaper Cult and Manufactorum Stealers might be good too, just to do something different and be in-your-face early.
Mawlocs are great, and I have no problem with some of us doing the lictor-shame thing, problem is that you get 1 lictor and 1 mawloc, with one of us getting 2 mawlocs and 1 of us getting 2 lictors (with the +1 slot thingie).
Haywire heavy with the crones might not be the best, since they miss a lot, but I figured having the S8 vector and -5 I in combat would be useful too. At 1000 points, its tough to bring a reasonable tarpit to go after knights/wraithknights without sacrificing elsewhere, but it can totally be done. I mean 30 gants is like 160 points, which is chump change.
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Post by jefferestinpeace on Jan 5, 2016 13:11:10 GMT -6
Harpy does the initiative thing, not Crones, FYI. I keep forgetting the damned FOC restrictions. Still, two Mawlocs is great, with or without Lictors. Can we use our partner's Lictors? Keep in mind we can find synergy there.
I would say a Dima over a Mal, since we can Venomthrope just fine.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 13:17:39 GMT -6
Just a heads up for something to keep an eye out for. Imperial armies ignore cover really easy these days with the Hunter's Eye Relic, Phosphor Weapons, and Orders from Guard. I don't know if you have any other options beyond just the cover saves but it might be worth looking into.
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Post by Nick P on Jan 5, 2016 13:32:16 GMT -6
Good call, harpy = initiative penalty, damn. And yes, we can use each other's lictors since we're battle brothers. And we can Dima and Mal, again each choice is 0-1, but we can use any/all of them in the same FoC if we want.
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Post by Nick P on Jan 5, 2016 13:37:35 GMT -6
I think I might want to go like this:
HQ - flyrant, electroshock Elite - 2 lictors Troops - 3 DS rippers, 3 DS rippers, Muc Fast - dima Heavy - mawloc (+1 heavy, mawloc) Tyrannocyte
1000 on the nose. gives me 2 small DS units to grab objectives, a single muc to hide near a home objective, mawlocs to do S6 AP2 damage, 2 lictors for survivability, Dima to ID eveything with S8 AP2 at I5 in a pod to get turn 3 charge.
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Post by dex on Jan 7, 2016 10:08:57 GMT -6
Err I need to find out what I even have.
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Post by Nick P on Jan 11, 2016 14:54:27 GMT -6
Jeff, with the move and all, are you still in on the team tournament/adepticon in general? We need to confirm who is going to be our 4th player here (and possibly 3rd, if Dex isn't feeling it).
I'm also doing the 40k friendly (eldar corsairs babay), so if you're not going to make it then it might more sense to scrap it all together and focus on the friendly. Thoughts?
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Post by jefferestinpeace on Jan 11, 2016 16:49:18 GMT -6
I'm still in duder, at least as far as I know. I'll actually probably be there for work, but I'm thinking I'll have time enough to play.
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Post by dex on Jan 14, 2016 9:36:47 GMT -6
The team tourney is 100% of your time from like 7 or 8am on.
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Post by Nick P on Jan 14, 2016 11:16:32 GMT -6
The team tourney is 100% of your time from like 7 or 8am on. Yeah I know, the 40k friendly is on friday; if we end up not doing the team tourney (boo) then I'd just hang on saturday and buy some shit/be drunk
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Post by Russell on Jan 14, 2016 11:20:23 GMT -6
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Post by dex on Jan 14, 2016 16:47:33 GMT -6
Thats what I want to do. Or play in the bolt action nationals
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