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Post by 1D3chan on Nov 22, 2015 22:24:55 GMT -6
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Post by 1D3chan on Nov 22, 2015 22:25:24 GMT -6
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Post by 1D3chan on Nov 22, 2015 22:25:35 GMT -6
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Post by 1D3chan on Nov 22, 2015 22:26:03 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 23:08:31 GMT -6
I'm glad guard got some love. Shame you'll only ever see the armored version on the table. The infantry version suffers to much from the loss of Objective Secured.
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Post by 1D3chan on Nov 23, 2015 8:19:42 GMT -6
I love the psyker one... harnessing warp charges on a 2+ or else getting immediately executed by the Commissar...Now if that doesn't have Imperium written all over it, I don't know what does
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Post by Nick P on Nov 23, 2015 8:44:06 GMT -6
These are awesome, fluffy, and while powerful they're balanced by the fact that you have to bring so many bodies. Love that the tanks get orders too, that's insanely good! And so much modeling capability, with creating sentinal commanders, tank commanders, etc etc
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2015 9:43:19 GMT -6
The artillery formation looks very promising though, the ability to split-fire and ignore cover on any AM artillery platform is fantastic.
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Post by Nick P on Nov 23, 2015 10:13:36 GMT -6
I just realized how large the main "core" formation is - if you're not taking a tank army, you're putting down 1100 points and 170 infantry minis even before you start adding in auxiliary formations lol
That's a LOT of bodies! But I think the rules are worth it - with FRF,SRF and the rerolls of 1, you're looking at potentially 300-450 Lasgun shots at a single enemy unit. Bye bye death stars! That's 262 hits with the rerolls, and even at T5/T6 we're looking at 30 wounds. At T4 its 87 wounds, T3 its 131. That's just...so many saves guys. omg.
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Post by jefferestinpeace on Nov 23, 2015 12:37:11 GMT -6
And when they're rerolling their 2+ invuls?
T5-6 - 0.83 wounds
T4 - 2.4 wounds
T3 - 3.63 wounds
Let's add in FNP
T5-6 - 0.5 wounds
T4 - 1.5 wounds
T3 - 2.4 wounds
BYE BYE DEATHSTARS
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2015 13:06:03 GMT -6
And when they're rerolling their 2+ invuls? T5-6 - 0.83 wounds T4 - 2.4 wounds T3 - 3.63 wounds Let's add in FNP T5-6 - 0.5 wounds T4 - 1.5 wounds T3 - 2.4 wounds BYE BYE DEATHSTARS Did you take into account invisibility only hitting on 6's? Massed fire does nothing to deathstars, as Jeff has pointed out. The best way to remove deathstars like superfriends is to take Gargants and stomp them out. 6s remove models and ignore all the 2++ re-roll bullshit. I'm telling ya, the infantry platoon won't see any play outside of casual play. The the tank company on the other hand can be really good. AV 14 is already hard for many armies to deal with, add the fact that the tanks in the company get +1 BS and also can force re-rolls on the damage chart and your cooking with gas. The command benefits also let you dish out 3 orders from your commander. Tank Company + Air Company and your a hard list to beat. |
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Post by 1D3chan on Nov 23, 2015 14:42:24 GMT -6
And when they're rerolling their 2+ invuls? T5-6 - 0.83 wounds T4 - 2.4 wounds T3 - 3.63 wounds Let's add in FNP T5-6 - 0.5 wounds T4 - 1.5 wounds T3 - 2.4 wounds BYE BYE DEATHSTARS Yikes. I'm not that familiar with Deathstars yet, the only one I faced was a Lychguard in a Decurion: 3++/4+ FNP with a re-roll of 1...that was a pain to deal with. What units have 2+ Invuls with re-rolls/FNP? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2015 14:54:05 GMT -6
And when they're rerolling their 2+ invuls? T5-6 - 0.83 wounds T4 - 2.4 wounds T3 - 3.63 wounds Let's add in FNP T5-6 - 0.5 wounds T4 - 1.5 wounds T3 - 2.4 wounds BYE BYE DEATHSTARS Yikes. I'm not that familiar with Deathstars yet, the only one I faced was a Lychguard in a Decurion: 3++/4+ FNP with a re-roll of 1...that was a pain to deal with. What units have 2+ Invuls with re-rolls/FNP? Daemons are the biggest offender, but you can get some ridiculous deathstars using psykers and space marines |
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Post by Nick P on Nov 23, 2015 15:54:29 GMT -6
And when they're rerolling their 2+ invuls? T5-6 - 0.83 wounds T4 - 2.4 wounds T3 - 3.63 wounds Let's add in FNP T5-6 - 0.5 wounds T4 - 1.5 wounds T3 - 2.4 wounds BYE BYE DEATHSTARS Y'all are jerks man HEY GUYS JEFF IS JADED |
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Post by Russell on Nov 23, 2015 16:15:17 GMT -6
I feel like this is the sort of response that's you should expect from Jeff. That or something about being vegan
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