Raptors Gladius Strike Force - 1850pts

Deleted
Deleted Member

Posts: 0

Raptors Gladius Strike Force - 1850pts Sept 9, 2015 1:51:04 GMT -6 jefferestinpeace likes this

Quote

Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 1:51:04 GMT -6

Battle Company
Captain [Boltgun, Bolt Pistol]
Chaplain [Crozius Arcanum, Bolt Pistol]
Land Speeder Squadron [3x Land Speeder (Multi-Melta, Heavy Flamer)]
Land Speeder Squadron [3x Land Speeder (Multi-Melta, Heavy Flamer)]
Devastator Squad [4x Space Marines (4x Missile Launcher), Space Marine Sergeant (Boltgun, Bolt Pistol, Signum), Razorback (TL Heavy Bolter)]
Devastator Squad [4x Space Marines (4x Missile Launcher), Space Marine Sergeant (Boltgun, Bolt Pistol, Signum), Razorback (TL Heavy Bolter)]
Tactical Squad [4x Space Marines (x4 Boltgun), Space Marine Sergeant (Boltgun, Bolt Pistol), Razorback (TL Heavy Bolter)]
Tactical Squad [4x Space Marines (x4 Boltgun), Space Marine Sergeant (Boltgun, Bolt Pistol), Razorback (TL Heavy Bolter)]
Tactical Squad [4x Space Marines (x4 Boltgun), Space Marine Sergeant (Boltgun, Bolt Pistol), Razorback (TL Heavy Bolter)]
Tactical Squad [4x Space Marines (x4 Boltgun), Space Marine Sergeant (Boltgun, Bolt Pistol), Razorback (TL Heavy Bolter)]
Tactical Squad [4x Space Marines (x4 Boltgun), Space Marine Sergeant (Boltgun, Bolt Pistol), Razorback (TL Heavy Bolter)]
Tactical Squad [4x Space Marines (x4 Boltgun), Space Marine Sergeant (Boltgun, Bolt Pistol), Razorback (TL Heavy Bolter)]

1st Company Task Force
Sternguard Veterans [4x Sternguard (4x Boltgun, Bolt Pistol), Sternguard Sergeant (Boltgun, Bolt Pistol)]
Sternguard Veterans [4x Sternguard (4x Boltgun, Bolt Pistol), Sternguard Sergeant (Boltgun, Bolt Pistol)]
Sternguard Veterans [4x Sternguard (4x Boltgun, Bolt Pistol), Sternguard Sergeant (Boltgun, Bolt Pistol)]

10th Company Task Force
Scout Squad [4x Scouts (4x Boltgun), Scout Sergeant (Boltgun, Bolt Pistol)]
Scout Squad [4x Scouts (4x Boltgun), Scout Sergeant (Boltgun, Bolt Pistol)]
Scout Squad [4x Scouts (4x Boltgun), Scout Sergeant (Boltgun, Bolt Pistol)]

Raptors' Chapter Tactics:

Strike from the Shadows: Non-vehicle Raptors models that do not begin the game in a Transport vehicle have the Shrouded special rule until the start of the second game turn. When rolling to see whether the Night Fighting mission special rule is in effect during game turn 1, you may add 1 to the result if your army contains at least one Raptor unit.

Legendary Marksman: Any unit with this special rule that does not move in the Movement phase of their turn may choose to gain the Rending special rule when firing in the Shooting phase of that turn with boltguns, combi-weapons fired as boltguns or bolt pistols. When using this rule, all boltguns, combi-weapons used as boltguns and bolt pistols fired are counted as being Heavy 1 weapons instead of Rapid Fire or Pistol type weapons for that turn.

Last Edit: Oct 5, 2015 22:15:39 GMT -6 by Deleted

jefferestinpeace
novice

Posts: 1,778

Raptors Gladius Strike Force - 1850pts Sept 9, 2015 6:33:16 GMT -6

Quote

Post by jefferestinpeace on Sept 9, 2015 6:33:16 GMT -6

It's going to be hard to kill what needs be killed in this army for objective based games, that's for sure, but on the same token, there are just some targets you won't be able to touch. Raptors are great and the Rending is awesome, but it's slightly counter-intuitive to the high mobility of the metal bawkses GSF. Also, you only have two 5-man units that put out real threat; they will often die before they kill anything.

I recommend special weapons in the tac squads, half grav, half melta, combat squads for everyone. You're already effed in a KP game, so CS are a must.

And JP squads are ok, but you either want your chappy with them for re-rolls or remove their packs for a pod so they can't be ignored, as I think they have OS. They won't ever kill anything, but they have to be dealt with.

Defo looks fun as hell.

i'm just so tired of all these star wars

theknightmantis
initiate

Posts: 164

Raptors Gladius Strike Force - 1850pts Sept 9, 2015 8:23:12 GMT -6

Quote

Post by theknightmantis on Sept 9, 2015 8:23:12 GMT -6

May I suggest using the Sky-hammer formation for the Devs and JP squads? I find it gives them a nice punch. Other then that it looks like a lot of fun and I am always a fan of tactical spam.

Also A unit of Sternguard Vets I feel is almost essential for a shooty marine army. Stick them in a pod and they can set up on an objective and take down Monstrous creatures pretty well.

Nick P
Global Moderator

Posts: 4,952

Raptors Gladius Strike Force - 1850pts Sept 9, 2015 9:18:01 GMT -6

Quote

Post by Nick P on Sept 9, 2015 9:18:01 GMT -6

Sept 9, 2015 8:23:12 GMT -6 theknightmantis said:

it gives them a nice punch

This fucking guy right here

I love tactical spam Will, and so do my Dark Eldar. I tend to agree with Jeff - the assault squads aren't going to be too dangerous, and likely will die with the devestators first. Giving the tacticals some melta/grav special weapons and combat squading them gives you a ton more flexibility in terms of deployment and objective grabbing, and also means you have additional tools to deal with elite units, monsters, or vehicles.

Don't let your memes be dreams

Dougtrio neophyte Posts: 567	Raptors Gladius Strike Force - 1850pts Sept 9, 2015 11:09:46 GMT -6 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Dougtrio on Sept 9, 2015 11:09:46 GMT -6 whistle sound How many points is this table full of Space Marines?
	Biiiiiiiitch

englishchris
initiate

Remember me?

Posts: 130

Raptors Gladius Strike Force - 1850pts Sept 14, 2015 3:11:16 GMT -6

Quote

Post by englishchris on Sept 14, 2015 3:11:16 GMT -6

Sorry to ask a dumb question, you able to take Land Speeders instead of Assault Squads? I know how the Gladius SF works in the Vanilla Codex, but I don't have access to the Raptor Codex. Which FW book is that in?

The thing with 6 Tac squads, is that that's a ton of bolters! One could say, too many bolters? Though I do total get that you can rend, but does that run the risk of being static? Not being use to this chapter tactic, would it maybe be worth reducing to 5 man squads, (equipping with combi and special), taking a free razorback instead of rhino, and using the saved 70 points, for a 20 point turret upgrade. Do this 6 times and that's 300 extra points to spend, with fewer models to have to paint. Then the next question is what to spend 300 pts on. Plus 6 shrouded razorbacks with TL lascannons (or something) would be neat.

I guess rending bolters are the equivalent of Eldar bladestorm, but you're being forced to remain stationary, Instead of being able to move, and then run before or after shooting. Plus the very mobile jet bikes have this too. If you want to take advantage of this Chapter Tactic, would SM bikes be worth a thought? Move them into position and then you have twinlinked rending shots. And you keep mobility for Malestorm games.....just a thought.

Salamanders (Apprx 10,000pts)
Imperial Guard (Apprx 2,500pts)
Desert Lions (Apprx 3,000pts)

Russell Administrator Posts: 2,218	Raptors Gladius Strike Force - 1850pts Sept 14, 2015 9:48:58 GMT -6 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Russell on Sept 14, 2015 9:48:58 GMT -6 Does that legendary marksman special rule work when you use the heavy support doctrine that gives everyone relentless, or is that only for dev squads?
	Spooky Bretonnia

Deleted
Deleted Member

Posts: 0

Raptors Gladius Strike Force - 1850pts Sept 14, 2015 10:52:56 GMT -6

Quote

Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 10:52:56 GMT -6

The assault squads can be sub-ed out for either a unit of land speeders or assault centurions in the Demi-Battle Company. Thats in C:SM though, the only special thing I get from FW is the raptors chapter tactics.

I kind of wanted to just go with bolter spam, I realize it might not be super viable in maelstrom. That said though I do intend to build with maelstrom in mind. I've though it over a few times now, and I've decided that best solution is to go with 10 man tactical squads, combat squaded into 5 with a special weapon in a razorback, and 5 that stand on a back field objective.

The devastator doctrine doesn't give relentless any more, at least to my knowledge. Basically each doctrine just gives re-rolls to hit of 1 for everyone, and re-rolls of everything for the specific unit in the doctrine's name for one turn. My bread and butter is definitely the tactical doctrine.

Dougtrio neophyte Posts: 567	Raptors Gladius Strike Force - 1850pts Sept 14, 2015 17:23:53 GMT -6 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Dougtrio on Sept 14, 2015 17:23:53 GMT -6 Woah woah woah, hold on a minute. Are all your blood bloods painted?
	Biiiiiiiitch

Russell Administrator Posts: 2,218	Raptors Gladius Strike Force - 1850pts Sept 14, 2015 17:58:15 GMT -6 via mobile Nick P likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Russell on Sept 14, 2015 17:58:15 GMT -6 Sept 14, 2015 17:52:18 GMT -6 willblood said: like plastic sisters for example. Oh you sweet summer child
	Spooky Bretonnia

CST

Raptors Gladius Strike Force - 1850pts

Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 1:51:04 GMT -6

Post by jefferestinpeace on Sept 9, 2015 6:33:16 GMT -6

Post by theknightmantis on Sept 9, 2015 8:23:12 GMT -6

Post by Nick P on Sept 9, 2015 9:18:01 GMT -6

Post by Dougtrio on Sept 9, 2015 11:09:46 GMT -6

Post by englishchris on Sept 14, 2015 3:11:16 GMT -6

Post by Russell on Sept 14, 2015 9:48:58 GMT -6

Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 10:52:56 GMT -6

Post by Dougtrio on Sept 14, 2015 17:23:53 GMT -6

Post by Russell on Sept 14, 2015 17:58:15 GMT -6

Quick Reply