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Post by Matt W. on Jul 5, 2015 22:09:46 GMT -6
I for one will be buying square bases to make casts of them. They state bases don't matter ethier way. So if pressed I can try AoS. But I have a feeling my initial feeling is gonna stick. youtu.be/4UMxWrwPeto
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Post by Ah crap it's him on Jul 6, 2015 3:53:02 GMT -6
First impression is that they made a fluffy stand alone game that lets you use just about anything, and with the new simple system the playing field is evened up a lot, things are all a lot more "middle of the road"
As a replacement to 8th it's sad. It reads very much Rock Paper Scissors like 40k with the strategy down the crapper. And while it bothers me to have no points, I kinda get the idea of "you're all going to complain about balance anyways, so choke on this" GW has been trying to avoid competitive/tournent type game play (baffles me as to why) and what better way to do it then by removing all hope of blalanced play?
I'm on board with nick for the this is cool but not a replacement for WFB. I think it could have made a pretty darn good bridge game between fantasy and 40k, for them to run and pull some more people to the game while they revamped WFB.
Im definitely curious to see where AoS goes, but right now think I'd have the most fun with it playing a mordheim sized game. Or maybe just playing mordheim. (But I still preordered a box... I may complain that you cut plastic crack with a new additive... But gimmie my plastic crack)
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Post by Nick P on Jul 6, 2015 6:31:51 GMT -6
I've seen some of the not-yet-shown Sigmarite sculpts and they are really knocking the minis out of the park. There are a few character models, as well as halberd and great-sword options for the Stormcast Eternals coming down the pipe (my guess is next week), so I'm excited to see if they do indeed add more models to the other races what they'll look like.
I just keep telling myself that I still have all the fantasy books and FAQs either on my shelf or on my ipad, and that I can play 8th still whenever I want. I just now also have another option in AoS, for whatever its worth. And as long as GW keeps pumping out amazing minis I'll still buy them where appropriate to add to my armies.
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Post by Nick P on Jul 6, 2015 9:11:27 GMT -6
PS it seems, from the play tests I've seen on various sites and youtube, that the game can be pretty balanced as long as the armies are of about the same size and use the same types of units - so if you bring a monster, your opponent should bring a monster to balance it; a unit of 2 wound flying guys, your opponent should bring a similar sized unit of fast moving 2 wound guys, etc.
So unit type and approx # of wounds tends to be the balancing factor here. I'm excited to give it a shot on Wednesday and see for myself - Russell, I'll be bringing my full 2400 Lizzie list, just because its all in the same shoe box (I'm a monster, I know). We can play whatever you want, but I'll have ample unit types available to test out - wizards, monsters, flying cav, fast cav, 1 wound infantry, 2 wound infantry, etc.
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Post by dex on Jul 6, 2015 9:44:09 GMT -6
So played a few games.
1st up. Summoning HOLY FUCK. I mean really really stupid. I summoned 9 Kroxigors and then tried three times and finally got a Carnosaur.
2nd, we had some luck balancing with wounds but it really screwed my goblins.
It was fun.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 12:55:40 GMT -6
Yeah, I spent the weekend between doing fun stuff with Lisa and the dogs reading everything I could from people who played the game. Some people absolutely love it. Some absolutely hate it. Based on the pros vs the cons people keep citing I'm still looking forward to trying it out. I think I'm going to enjoy it. We'll see.
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Post by dex on Jul 6, 2015 14:21:06 GMT -6
I am enjoying it. But you need a big dose of rule of cool to play it. If you push it really hard and close it breaks.
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Post by Nick P on Jul 7, 2015 15:53:26 GMT -6
MWG came up with what seems like the easiest, best way to balance the game (so far) - (Wounds + Attacks)xBravery = points per model. If monster or warmachine, double it again.
They played a 1500 "point" battle between High Elves and Skaven, and it was like I was watching a WAY fast paced (and therefore more exciting, more interactive, more enjoyable) fantasy game.
Seemed very balanced (compared to the other AoS battle reports using the straight rules, which have been abysmally one sided despite all efforts at balance), and showed the level of strategy involved in the game when determining who to charge, when to charge, who to attack with first...etc. etc.
Definitely something I want to try when we hit the Dojo tomorrow.
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