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Post by Nick P on May 6, 2015 7:13:08 GMT -6
Its just the Decurion in Necrons that is abusive. Like any army, spamming the excessively good things can make the game no fun for either player. Honestly, the decurion isn't that bad - the formations are so points heavy that you can only really take one or two of them, usually a high powered one (canoptek swarm, destroyer cult) and a low powered one (annihilation nexus, judicator battalion) alongside the standard requirements of Overlord, Immortals, 2x Warriors, and Tomb blades. Taking a CaD is way more spammy - for an investment of about 320 points (overlord kitted out, and 2 min sized immortal units) you can then invest everything else into 18 wraiths, 3 triarch stalkers, etc. and really bring the pain. Anyways, new guy, Necrons are a blast to build and paint - honestly one of the most fun armies I've ever painted, outside of Tyranids. Truly a joy to construct and put brush to model, rather than a chore as it can sometimes seem. Plus with them being a lot of drybrushed metal, its very easy to be new to the hobby and make the army look great! If you like the look of the models, and the back story behind them, take the dive. I'd be happy to help you decide which units are a good start to a low points army, where the army excels, what its drawbacks are, etc. to give you some direction along the way.
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Post by dex on May 6, 2015 8:36:11 GMT -6
Necrons are fun, I would go with whichever you think looks cooler. Don't worry about power levels.
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Post by Russell on May 6, 2015 9:07:19 GMT -6
Necrons might be it; they have a ton of different ways you can approach army building. There's almost no bad unit in that entire book and they all have a lot of synergy and fluffiness. Tau, to me, seems the same thing over and over again, just on a different shaped base. b...but space robots
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Post by jefferestinpeace on May 6, 2015 9:20:08 GMT -6
Russell's gonna need a "I regret purchasing so much Tau" thread soon.
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Post by Russell on May 6, 2015 9:23:10 GMT -6
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Post by dex on May 6, 2015 9:28:24 GMT -6
Tau is where it is at!
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Post by doubleback on May 6, 2015 12:31:18 GMT -6
Looks like I'm swinging by refuge to grab the Necron Codex then. I think I might have put more thought into my army choice than I did my major.
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Post by jefferestinpeace on May 6, 2015 12:59:38 GMT -6
You're a natural
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Post by OneEyeRob on May 6, 2015 13:22:23 GMT -6
Torrenting the codex is also a good way to test and see if you like the feel
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Post by Nick P on May 6, 2015 13:56:22 GMT -6
Torrenting the codex is also a good way to test and see if you like the feel Seriously? What the hell is going on on this forum
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Post by dex on May 6, 2015 14:18:54 GMT -6
Christ.
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via mobile
Post by Joelercoaster on May 6, 2015 15:26:37 GMT -6
Funny, I don't remember people going crazy when Russell sold his eldar or nick most of his harlequins. We all know the first army is a gateway drug, guys. Getting a cheap second hand start is better than not starting at all.
Also, it was specifically said to torrent only as a way to see if you like it or not, not as a replacement for owning the book. There's a line between supporting stores you play at and being a Nazi about it. Ndg closed (twice) because of incompetent business models, not our lack of trying. I lost count how many times we tried to throw money at them and they said "no, that's not what we want to do... But you guys need to be dropping three times as much on kits..."
That said, agreed that with fairly minimal painting technique necrons can look amazing, which can be great fit a new hobbyist. And if they're not giant robots, they are still basically regular sized robots.
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Post by littlekyle on May 6, 2015 16:02:16 GMT -6
Yes, torrenting a book as a replacement for actually buying it is underhanded and unfair to the stores who host the communities, but considering it's pretty obvious this guy is interested enough to at the very least buy a starter box and some paints, I'm surprised you are making such a big deal about it. Shit, you actively encouraged me to do the exact same thing when I started way back when so I could spend my limited funds on actual minis and paint etc. (for the record I did in fact buy the book at a later time.)
And yes, it's not the same situation as a high-school student saving up his lunch money to buy toys, but the basic idea is the same: why spend $100+ on books before you know if you're even going to start that army? And not everyone has the free time of a high-school student to sit in a store and read through 2 codices and a supplement and plot out his next 6 months of purchases and army lists before making an ultimate decision.
Anyway: Always nice to see someone new getting started in this hobby. I chose Tau way back when they were shit because I liked the look of them and still had a blast losing to these guys, and even just sitting together and painting was a ton of fun. Don't worry to much about being competitive or putting together an award-winning paint job and just have fun with it (also, pro tip for necrons, run nothing but flying croissants. It's a super secret trick that works every time and NOBODY sees coming). This is a great group of people and that's what ultimately makes or breaks the hobby.
Welcome, and hope you enjoy this half as much as I have.
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Post by dex on May 6, 2015 18:04:53 GMT -6
I do like the flying crossants. But I have a few exhibits. stand by for awesome....
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Post by clint on May 6, 2015 23:32:27 GMT -6
Necrons might be it; they have a ton of different ways you can approach army building. There's almost no bad unit in that entire book and they all have a lot of synergy and fluffiness. Tau, to me, seems the same thing over and over again, just on a different shaped base. b...but space robots Necrons are the true Space Robots. Tau are just a poor man's Battlemech... (There's a game I won't ever go back to, that's for sure, although it was fun 20 years ago.)
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