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Post by dex on Apr 30, 2015 15:36:34 GMT -6
I like this idea, for club matches that you get preferred enemy when your unit is fully painted against unpainted models. Thoughts?
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Post by Dan K on Apr 30, 2015 17:26:37 GMT -6
As someone who really doesn't like painting but likes to play, you sir are wrong!
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Post by Andy on May 1, 2015 0:51:52 GMT -6
Many years ago we used to have a -1T for unpainted.
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Post by Joelercoaster on May 1, 2015 6:28:32 GMT -6
I think it would work well for a specific painting league, but I wouldn't use it on every game I play (and I'm very close to having two fully painted armies)
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Post by jefferestinpeace on May 1, 2015 7:04:36 GMT -6
PE's super powerful, maybe Hatred? But then again, I'm rarely in assaults.
God dammit why are Nids rarely in assaults!?
PE ALL THE WAY.
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Post by Nick P on May 1, 2015 7:16:32 GMT -6
I vote yes, get everyone motivated to paint their shit up. Even if its just 3 colors - it'll make all of our games so much more fun!
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 7:29:17 GMT -6
I vote yes, get everyone motivated to paint their shit up. Even if its just 3 colors - it'll make all of our games so much more fun! Idk about that, honestly if it was enforced it would just cause me to play fewer games. I get where it comes from, people want to feel special for having a painted force, but isn't that reward enough? It takes me a long time to paint up models because I don't use an airbrush and getting punished for that is a little disheartening. |
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Post by Nick P on May 1, 2015 7:32:57 GMT -6
Its not about feeling special, its about the suspension of disbelief - when you have two painted armies facing off on a board with terrain, the game is more entertaining for everyone involved - even spectators. When the armies aren't painted, its like playing chess - you're acutely aware that this is just a game of strategy, played to win and nothing more.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 7:44:02 GMT -6
I can only really speak for myself, but it just doesn't add anything entertaining to the game for me. In the end it just results in me either losing games all the time for the next few months, or painting my models poorly to get a three colour status. What ever is decided by the group is what it is, but the rule just seems exclusionary to anyone but the guys who already have fully painted forces.
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Post by jefferestinpeace on May 1, 2015 7:48:18 GMT -6
But the last thing we want to do is discourage anyone from playing. Will just got his Khorne stuff; he can't really be expected to get it all done by his next game, nor should he be denied a genuine experience with his models because of a lack of free time in his schedule.
However, I can't disagree with Nick either. Especially for the campaign, where narrative will be dominant. An immersive experience is what we're looking for in those games, but that also means we want to prioritize fun. There are certainly arguments either way, and I feel that if we can find a more appropriate game component to better encourage the painting of models, it's a legitimate effort.
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Post by T1m on May 1, 2015 7:53:48 GMT -6
Then maybe if the campaign has some sort of rankings or points system, points can be given based on painting. I'm all for having a painted army and such but I win infrequently as it is, and personally I think winning because my opponent didn't have a fully painted army would cheapen it in some way.
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Post by dex on May 1, 2015 7:54:34 GMT -6
Well we also talked about league or campaign etc. I have a way way better time playing with painted against painted.
Additionally the spirit of this is to motivate folks to get things painted so I will be playing this way for the most part.
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Post by Nick P on May 1, 2015 8:06:08 GMT -6
I also don't think there's anything wrong with being like "hey Will, if you only have 500 points painted, lets just play a bunch of 500 point games and make a story out of it" - rather than expecting someone to paint a full 1850 force in a week or whatever.
That being said, we definitely don't want it to be exclusionary, but I feel like we should do something at least that motivates people to paint, because losing to a sea of gray across the table is just depressing lol
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Post by dex on May 1, 2015 8:12:46 GMT -6
I am happy to play a bunch of smaller games. For the same reason I hated playing in the HardBoyz tournaments and never got into warmahordes. The game is more fun when two awesome armies of the future clash *instert kabooms here*
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Post by jefferestinpeace on May 1, 2015 8:13:12 GMT -6
Ok, so, dudes with naked dudemans: Will this motivate you to paint?
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