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Post by Nick P on Jul 19, 2015 7:25:30 GMT -6
I'm not as familiar with the total war series, but is 8 factions really so few? I'm used to playing games with like 3 to 5 max so I'm stoked for that (and lizardmen dlc omg).
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Post by littlekyle on Jul 19, 2015 14:56:41 GMT -6
I'm not as familiar with the total war series, but is 8 factions really so few? I'm used to playing games with like 3 to 5 max so I'm stoked for that (and lizardmen dlc omg). I thought there were just going to be the 4 to start: empire dwarfs green skins and vampire counts
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Post by Nick P on Jul 19, 2015 21:13:58 GMT -6
Empire, dwarfs, greenskins, vampires, chaos to start. Lizardmen, skaven and elves in the form of DLC for a total of eight. Granted I'm not familiar with how Total War does dlc so we could be talking a year or more.
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Post by dex on Jul 20, 2015 9:44:33 GMT -6
Total War DLC has tended towards full race packs. The past few Totals have had 16+ playable and 80 non playable for rome 2.
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Post by littlekyle on Jul 20, 2015 9:48:35 GMT -6
They're doing compatible standalone expansions in addition to DLC, so it's most likely the factions will come with standalone expansions (probably not unlike Ardennes Assault for Company of Heroes) and adding units as DLC. The latter seemed a lot more plausible before they did the whole Age of Sigmar thing though unless they've been given license to invent new units as they please that fit the old world.
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Post by Matt W. on Jul 20, 2015 10:10:26 GMT -6
I'm not as familiar with the total war series, but is 8 factions really so few? I'm used to playing games with like 3 to 5 max so I'm stoked for that (and lizardmen dlc omg). In total war yes it is. When Rome 2 launched (one of its more salient faults) it took on the order of 5 to 7 minutes for the computer to play through all 90 or so factions after you ended your turn. Those were heady days. You'd play a three minute turn at the start of the campaign and then browse Facebook til the computer got done.
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Post by Nick P on Jul 20, 2015 11:26:36 GMT -6
Ah, well in that case yeah 8 seems to be quite a low number. In terms of how the game plays, am I correct that its sort of a mix between Civilization and traditional RTS games?
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Post by littlekyle on Jul 20, 2015 16:19:47 GMT -6
Ah, well in that case yeah 8 seems to be quite a low number. In terms of how the game plays, am I correct that its sort of a mix between Civilization and traditional RTS games? Simpler civilization, as total war is literally the name of the game and so diplomacy and infrastructure is built more directly around that, with fixed settlement placements but no hexes. The battles themselves are RTS, but you can also "auto - resolve" on the campaign map; which is a bit more like civ, but generally a worse idea than fighting yourself. There's a bit more nuance to the units than "tier 2 everything beats tier 1 everything" too. The heaviest cavalry won't die to tier 1 spears easily, for example, but if you get enough of them it's doable. And given how cheap those infantry are it's not unreasonable to spam them when pressed for cash/time.
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Post by Nick P on Jul 20, 2015 17:30:34 GMT -6
Should I play Atilla to prepare myself?
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Post by littlekyle on Jul 20, 2015 20:15:19 GMT -6
Play literally any of them from Rome 1 on. There are some pretty significant improvements as the games progress (And some arguably poor new mechanics such as limiting the number of armies available), but the basics are pretty consistent, especially when it comes to the battle map (i.e the RTS part).
Shogun 2 is arguably the best overall. Empire/Napoleon have the best naval combat hands down. Rome 1, being the earliest, is the least balanced (rome wins at everything except for phalanxes, which are even more overpowered) but still a lot of fun, and none of the ones before Empire let you fight naval battles. I can't speak for atilla as I haven't played that one.
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Post by Nick P on Jul 20, 2015 21:08:47 GMT -6
But...which has the best graphics and ui lol or are they all pretty similar
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Post by littlekyle on Jul 20, 2015 21:18:56 GMT -6
But...which has the best graphics and ui lol or are they all pretty similar Atilla then. Graphics and animation quality increased with each successive game (and also hardware requirements. By a lot. just something to keep in mind). The UI has always been good enough to manage all of the features of the campaign map, so it hasn't really gotten "better" per-se. I just figured I'd mention the older ones since they are both a) fun and b) cheaper.
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Post by Nick P on Jul 20, 2015 21:47:29 GMT -6
This word...what does it mean? Also have you met me LOL You're talking about a guy who got GTA V on 360, then again on PC just bc his fiancée was watching a movie one day and he wanted to play it.
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Post by jefferestinpeace on Jul 21, 2015 7:41:12 GMT -6
Money and fiancée in one, huh Nick? Bad weekend?
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Post by Andy on Jul 21, 2015 8:02:44 GMT -6
Consider playing a Total War that is hooked into a time period you know a bit about.
Total War Empire covers American Independance and the spread of European powers into India and North America.
Attila is great but it isn't such a classic empire builder. There is a pretty deep survival mechanic that forces you to pay attention to governance. And the DLC adds a huge element to the game. Without it all the European tribes are essentially "Norse".
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