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Post by dex on Nov 11, 2014 14:27:43 GMT -6
So after digging into your forums a bit it seems yall don't like your nids. I am going to be starting up nids for the Escalation at Kittens and Shit. So looking to buy some.
Let me know if you are looking to part with nids.
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Post by Nick P on Nov 11, 2014 14:28:27 GMT -6
Pshhh I hate the maleceptor, but my god do I love Nids. NEVER DEX
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Post by jefferestinpeace on Nov 11, 2014 14:32:04 GMT -6
CRUISIN FOR A BRUISIN DEX
I love my dinosaur bugs more than my family. But fuck the Maleceptor.
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Post by Nick P on Nov 11, 2014 14:34:53 GMT -6
I'm getting that toxicrene/maleceptor combo set from GW for christmas (the $146 SUPER SWEET SAVINGS set), building two maleceptors, and sacrificing them in the flames of the emperor (read: the gas stove at my parents house).
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Post by Nick P on Nov 11, 2014 14:38:52 GMT -6
So after digging into your forums a bit it seems yall don't like your nids. Oh, you sweet summer child. It's really only Joel that hates his Nids, everyone else wants to bang them. Cause sphincters. HEY. Its "an array of powerful sphincters", don't be childish.
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Post by Russell on Nov 11, 2014 14:52:40 GMT -6
Uh, what boxed set is that? DISREGARD I SUCK COCKS
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Post by dex on Nov 11, 2014 17:19:31 GMT -6
Wow touchy for a bunch of folks bashing the books and new releases for 13 pages...
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Post by Russell on Nov 11, 2014 18:15:34 GMT -6
Ha, while reception of the malefactor and toxicrene was rather poor, we're pretty much in agreement that the drop pods and the changes to the uh... brain bugs, is pretty sweet.
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Post by Russell on Nov 11, 2014 18:15:50 GMT -6
Zoanthropes, there it is.
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Post by Joelercoaster on Nov 11, 2014 18:18:29 GMT -6
Nah, they're just antsy cause all three extra syrup.
We all love our bugs, just hate a few of the continual slaps we get from gw. Plus side, if you ever have any tactic questions or other bits you came to the right place.
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Post by Nick P on Nov 11, 2014 18:42:08 GMT -6
Wow touchy for a bunch of folks bashing the books and new releases for 13 pages... Bashing the codex? Ohhhh silly, silly Dex Only Joel hates the codex; Jeff and I actually like it a lot, and just stare at Joel like this all the time
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Post by Joelercoaster on Nov 12, 2014 7:43:01 GMT -6
Pshhh.
While your gifs give me no end of sexual frustration, we all know this isn't true.
The codex is middling in level, assuming you completely ignore about 1/3 of the options.... and there are actually *a lot* of options in the book, so you're left with some decent variety even then. So that's not the issue.
The problem is near hard-counters. Nids *can* focus down one Knight. But it takes more than any other comprable TAC army. Our anti-armor tools in particular have just been getting pushed into the ground lately, and it sucks. It sucks hard.
HOWEVER.
Spores may be a big change. Well, a small one.
A solid-sized brood of Zoanthropes (say, 3) is a reasonable expense/support unit, and can be a small threat to a Knight, assuming you've knocked it down a peg already. Mind you, a full brood only does like 2-3 HP on average to it, so nothing to write home about... but the real power is that thanks you lance you can drop in on literally any side and be looking at an AV12 target, and because the shield changes in the *shooting phase*, you have 3 sides that you know are clear when you come in. The next turn they're all dead, so make it count, though.
Smash getting massively nerfed is good for *the game*, but overly hurtful to Nids. Even a CC monster dropping down in a Pod (say, a Haruspex) 1" from "target enemy"... well... 99% of things can just move away 12" and then run/flat out away, making the charge incredibly unlikely at best. Even with this delivery system, the model is slow, and most of its targets aren't. Add to that a D-Strength WS/I4 CCW is likely to completely remove 90% of our MC's before they get to swing... and... well... yeah.
I mean, if you bought 3 crones, you can just throw Haywire at it. Flyrants are likely to get 1-2 glances in a turn from lucky 6's. Hive Guard actually aren't terrible at plinking away at it.
Screw it. Just ally in a Necron Warrior Blob. Down in 1 turn. Done.
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Post by dex on Nov 12, 2014 9:00:36 GMT -6
Well shit I am gonna do it anyway I like a challenge.
But what should I start with? I was thinking about the GW boxes as they seem to actually not be bad deals and I figure I will be able to pick up cheap stuff from whatever ends up being in the BA vs Nids box.
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Post by jefferestinpeace on Nov 12, 2014 9:19:17 GMT -6
Wrath of the Hive Mind box looks pretty solid and comes with all the sprues for a Flyrant or a Tyrannofex if you so choose.
The Swarm box isn't bad either to really fill the fuck out of your troops.
I'd highly recommend picking up the Thrope box next weekend as Venoms are solid if you're not using Malanthropes and Zoanthropes are GREAT in low points games.
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Post by Nick P on Nov 12, 2014 9:38:57 GMT -6
Couldn't agree with Jeff more. Dakka Flyrants, acid tyrannofexes, tervigons, zoanthropes, venomthropes, or a malanthrope, and a whole mess of termagants is going to be the basis of most any list.
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