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rogerspacem
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Daemons Soup Mar 6, 2019 7:58:21 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by rogerspacem on Mar 6, 2019 7:58:21 GMT -6

Hey is this thing on? Oh HEY EVERYONE!!!

I know it's been a while since I was on. Have still been able to play (some what...if I'm lucky...) But work is kinda slowing down and I'm working on a daemons list with some renegades humans.

I got the renegades to provide anti screening potential to make way for my daemons, who the plague bearers will spear head. The horrors (with a few spare points are meant to lock enemies in close combat and move up the board (if they are able to fire then all the better). The blood bomb is meant to Target any threats to my horde once my renegades or horrors opens an area for them to drop and assault their taeget. Otherwise my characters are there for support. The blood master and Enrapturess are the only two questionable models but some far I can't decide what can replace them. The Enrapturess has an anti psyker Aura and the forbidden gem but so far both havent pulled their weight yet (aside from her shooting that has been good). Still thoughts before I go back to the warp.

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Renegades & Heretics) [32 PL, 1CP, 644pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Detachment CP [1CP]

+ HQ +

Renegade Commander [3 PL, 25pts]: Chainsword, Shotgun

+ Heavy Support +

Heavy Quad Launcher Battery [3 PL, 97pts]
. Heavy Quad Launcher: 3 x Renegade Crew

Heavy Quad Launcher Battery [3 PL, 97pts]
. Heavy Quad Launcher: 3 x Renegade Crew

Heavy Quad Launcher Battery [3 PL, 97pts]
. Heavy Quad Launcher: 3 x Renegade Crew

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 164pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Lascannon

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Daemons) [41 PL, 7CP, 784pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Chaos Allegiance: Chaos Undivided

Detachment CP [5CP]

Rewards of Chaos (1 Relic) [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Bloodmaster [3 PL, 56pts]

Infernal Enrapturess [4 PL, 80pts]: The Forbidden Gem

Poxbringer [4 PL, 70pts]

+ Troops +

Bloodletters [12 PL, 235pts]: 29x Bloodletter, Bloodreaper, Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Nurglings [3 PL, 54pts]: 3x Nurgling Swarms

Plaguebearers [12 PL, 235pts]: Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos, 29x Plaguebearer, Plagueridden

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Daemons) [34 PL, 5CP, 523pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Chaos Allegiance: Tzeentch

Detachment CP [5CP]

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Chaos [9 PL, 180pts]: Malefic talon, Tzeentch, Wings

Fluxmaster [5 PL, 90pts]: Flickering Flames, Gaze of Fate, Staff of Change, The Everstave, Warlord

+ Troops +

Horrors [12 PL, 193pts]: Daemonic Icon, Instrument of Chaos, 24x Pink Horror

Horrors [4 PL, 30pts]: 10x Pair of Brimstone Horrors

Horrors [4 PL, 30pts]: 10x Pair of Brimstone Horrors

++ Total: [107 PL, 13CP, 1951pts] ++

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Dark Angel's: 1W-1D-14L
Chaos: 5W-0D-4L

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Daemons Soup Mar 6, 2019 8:54:37 GMT -6

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Post by kingwalnut on Mar 6, 2019 8:54:37 GMT -6

NOTE: I know nothing about renegade units so if I overlook something, apologies.

I am always a fan of demon soup and demons in general. I would love to see what the command huddles are like between the Bloodmaster, Enrapturess, and the Poxbringer.

I am not too familiar with Heavy Quad Launcher Batteries, but would almost consider swapping the las cannons on the Leman Russ for another heavy bolter. If you are using them to clear screen, more shots are always good.

Another issue might be the opposing army just ignoring the plaguebearers on T1 and shooting at the Horrors or other things. I like the blood letter bomb threat. My mind keeps going to "how are you going to clear the screen to open a way in?". I run triple heavy bolters on my leman russ in my GSC army and it does help clear out squads of infantry. An extra 18 shots from two leman russ can reduce down a squad by just the few more I might need. Especially if you renegade Quad Launchers are anti-vehicle.

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Daemons Soup Mar 6, 2019 9:41:44 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by rogerspacem on Mar 6, 2019 9:41:44 GMT -6

Ah I see you are inexperienced in the ways of the warp my young Padawan. There is a strag that you pay 1 cp for 8PL units or 2 cp for greater to put them in reserves.

As for the russes maybe I should do heavy b's. Save on points, but I guess I wanted to make them seem like a threat to the heavier hitting units. Still I'll play with that idea.

Dark Angel's: 1W-1D-14L
Chaos: 5W-0D-4L

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Daemons Soup Mar 6, 2019 9:43:09 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by rogerspacem on Mar 6, 2019 9:43:09 GMT -6

eavy Quad Launcher Battery [3 PL, 97pts]
Categories: Artillery, Chaos, Heavy Support, Heavy quad launcher battery, Infantry, Renegade crew, Renegades And Heretics, Vehicle

Abilities: Artillery, Artillery Battery, Explodes

Heavy Quad Launcher [97pts]
Selections: 3 x Renegade Crew [12pts]

Unit: Heavy Quad Launcher, Weapon: Heavy Quad Launcher

Abilities Description Ref
Artillery A Heavy Quad Launcher can only fire its ranged weapon if a friendly RENEGADES AND HERETICS Guardsman Crew is within 3". A single Crew model cannot operate multiple Heavy Quad Launchers in this way in a single turn. If all of the renegade crew within 6" of a Heavy Quad Launcher are slain, it immediately shuts down and is removed from play.
Artillery Battery A Heavy Quad Launcher battery and its renegade crew must be deployed as a single group within 3" of each other, and must remain within this distance throughout the battle, but are otherwise treated as separate units. The Renegade crew may only be chosen as a target in the shooting phase if they are the closest visible unit to the model that is shooting.
Explodes If this model is reduced to 0 wounds, roll a D6 before removing it from the battlefield and before any embarked models disembark. On a 6 it explodes, and each unit within 6" suffers D3 mortal wounds.
Unit M WS BS S T W A Ld Save Ref
Heavy Quad Launcher 0" - 4+ 4 7 6 - 7 4+
Renegade Crew 6" 4+ 4+ 3 3 1 1 6 5+
Weapon Range Type S AP D Abilities Ref
Frag grenade 6" Grenade D6 3 0 1 -
Heavy Quad Launcher 48" Heavy 4D6 5 0 1 This weapon can targets that are not visible to the bearer
Lasgun 24 Rapid Fire 1 3 0 1 -

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Dark Angel's: 1W-1D-14L
Chaos: 5W-0D-4L

rogerspacem novice Posts: 1,027	Daemons Soup Mar 6, 2019 9:44:25 GMT -6 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by rogerspacem on Mar 6, 2019 9:44:25 GMT -6 Ok does not look good. Sorry about that but they are 97 points of 4d6 str5 motors that guard has. More importantly they can fire at units without LOS.
	Dark Angel's: 1W-1D-14L Chaos: 5W-0D-4L

kingwalnut neophyte Posts: 549	Daemons Soup Mar 6, 2019 10:15:15 GMT -6 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by kingwalnut on Mar 6, 2019 10:15:15 GMT -6 Sheeeeittt yeah that it good screen clearing. I am still not a fan of lascannons on Leman Russes unless you really need all the anti-armor you can get.
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Daemons Soup Mar 6, 2019 10:24:33 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by rogerspacem on Mar 6, 2019 10:24:33 GMT -6

Okay the only other thing I'm not too certain about is mixing a dp of 1k sons into the tzzentch detachment. Granted I lose obj sec and tzeentch ability but I never really saw it as that great... While a 1k son has a cheaper bolter and extra power to cast...also 18 powers to choose from.

Dark Angel's: 1W-1D-14L
Chaos: 5W-0D-4L

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Daemons Soup Mar 6, 2019 10:38:23 GMT -6

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Post by kingwalnut on Mar 6, 2019 10:38:23 GMT -6

I do not know tzeentch demons that well at all. Thousand Sons are solid, but mixing them in just on the side might be a little funny. The only thing is IF you do put in a 1k sons DP then what is he coming with? Just a patrol? That seems a little inefficient. I think fitting 1k sons into this list will need some juggling across the other detachments.

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Daemons Soup Mar 6, 2019 11:49:16 GMT -6 via mobile

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Post by rogerspacem on Mar 6, 2019 11:49:16 GMT -6

Well I was planning on stickinf him into the tzeentch daemon detachment. I'll lose the tzeentch detachment bonus, which in the fight phase I roll two dice and discard the highest. Any time my opponent attacks a tzeentch daemon unit with a character nearby then those unmodified die rolls automatically miss (this does occur after re-roll). I played it a few times with this bonus and it's a serious coin toss if it might do something. It's not bad, but I'm learning not to rely on it.

Otherwise the 1k dp brings powers I can use to tailor against my opponent. Granted now all the powers he has will be used in every situation but it does allow me to have a backup plan if I can't deal with a unit. Otherwise he helps support those horrors.

I usually run him with a boon of change and the second power just depends on my opponent.

Dark Angel's: 1W-1D-14L
Chaos: 5W-0D-4L

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