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Post by doubleback on Apr 2, 2018 12:58:07 GMT -6
Prime Orcs! I have literally no idea what they are, but they are coming and when they do everything will be great for Orks again.
Forever.
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Post by Russell on Apr 2, 2018 12:58:50 GMT -6
what
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Post by doubleback on Apr 2, 2018 13:07:00 GMT -6
Exactly.
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Post by mike on Apr 2, 2018 13:28:10 GMT -6
They're big
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Post by doubleback on Apr 2, 2018 13:35:20 GMT -6
The Biggest
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Post by zyggy on Apr 2, 2018 13:37:42 GMT -6
Ahaha, ha... ok, *pushes up nerd glasses* so to explain:
Primorks are from the "Beast Arises" book series, which every fan of the orks should read. Not only does it place orks as a main threat for the first and only time in the lore since Armageddon, they come closer to destroying Terra than that pansy-ass Horus ever did and kill off the ENTIRE original Imperial Fists chapter in the process. Yes you read that right.
Basically the titular "Beast" is the concept of the ork's biology of "the longer they live/fight, the bigger they get" taken to the next level. It's a warboss roughly THE SIZE OF AN APARTMENT BUILDING with tusks described as "the size of tree trunks." and smart as hell to boot, by human standards even!.
And *SPOILERS FOR THE BOOK SERIES:* He has 6 other buddies comparable in size to him called Primorks that used their intelligence and overwhelming command of the WAAAGH!! To organize the largest ork force the galaxy has ever known, with the organization to rival any space marine chapter. It's also heavily implied that these 6 primorks laid the foundations for what we now know as the Ork clans (Evil Suns, Deathskulls, Goffs, all the good orky stuff.) And they also imply at the end of the book that our good ol' ork buddy Ghazghkull Thraka is well on his way to becoming the next Beast.
TLDR: Primorks are orks the size of Stompas that work like Mortarion on the tabletop, and Ghazghkull has a 99% chance of being turned into one for the ork codex, with all the buffs and auras that implies. Whether that fixes all the OTHER problems orks have right now is an entirely different discussion.
If the rumors of primorks actually being a thing in 8th is true in the first place of course.
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Post by doubleback on Apr 2, 2018 15:15:47 GMT -6
Hehehe.... titular
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Post by doubleback on Apr 2, 2018 15:29:50 GMT -6
Ahaha, ha... ok, *pushes up nerd glasses* so to explain: Primorks are from the "Beast Arises" book series, which every fan of the orks should read. Not only does it place orks as a main threat for the first and only time in the lore since Armageddon, they come closer to destroying Terra than that pansy-ass Horus ever did and kill off the ENTIRE original Imperial Fists chapter in the process. Yes you read that right. Basically the titular "Beast" is the concept of the ork's biology of "the longer they live/fight, the bigger they get" taken to the next level. It's a warboss roughly THE SIZE OF AN APARTMENT BUILDING with tusks described as "the size of tree trunks." and smart as hell to boot, by human standards even!. And *SPOILERS FOR THE BOOK SERIES:* He has 6 other buddies comparable in size to him called Primorks that used their intelligence and overwhelming command of the WAAAGH!! To organize the largest ork force the galaxy has ever known, with the organization to rival any space marine chapter. It's also heavily implied that these 6 primorks laid the foundations for what we now know as the Ork clans (Evil Suns, Deathskulls, Goffs, all the good orky stuff.) And they also imply at the end of the book that our good ol' ork buddy Ghazghkull Thraka is well on his way to becoming the next Beast. TLDR: Primorks are orks the size of Stompas that work like Mortarion on the tabletop, and Ghazghkull has a 99% chance of being turned into one for the ork codex, with all the buffs and auras that implies. Whether that fixes all the OTHER problems orks have right now is an entirely different discussion. If the rumors of primorks actually being a thing in 8th is true in the first place of course. The same rumor source implied that the reason Orks are coming at the end was due to a major re-work of the index and the addition of a lot of new models. You know deep down these are all lies meant to break our hearts. In reality their movement is getting reduced to 3 inches and every unit is getting a 40% price hike
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Post by zyggy on Apr 2, 2018 15:51:20 GMT -6
The same rumor source implied that the reason Orks are coming at the end was due to a major re-work of the index and the addition of a lot of new models. You know deep down these are all lies meant to break our hearts. In reality their movement is getting reduced to 3 inches and every unit is getting a 40% price hike I swear, when the ork codex is actually announced, I'm going to make a thread here with all the changes they should be getting just to vent and cry when they don't get them. Hell, I might just do it now haha.
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Post by doubleback on Apr 2, 2018 16:06:20 GMT -6
I am actually cautiously optimistic. The Prime Orc model would explain that weird Naught size model that was shown in the background of the OrK picture at adepticon, GW had already mentioned that they were updating and adding some Ork models back when 8th came out, and a major re-work of Orks COULD be an explanation for why the codex is taking so long to some out.
That, or they literally have no idea how to make them competitive so they just keep pushing it back.
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Post by zyggy on Apr 2, 2018 16:12:17 GMT -6
From what I understand that Adepticon model was a looted GK dreadknight that had already been mentioned in past white dwarves, but yes, despite all my griping I do believe the current GW can really make orks viable again. They've been knocking every codex out of the park so far (except perhaps ironically, Grey Knights), so I hope against hopes that orks will get the same treatment.
That thread might be cathartic anyway though.
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