Chapter Approved

Where'd you see that? The flyer thing was in the last FAQ so that makes sense, but the obsec and the rolloff are definitely new - and honestly, a welcome change in order to make games more balanced. I can stop focusing on how many drops I have and focus on building a fun list.

I liked ObSec in terms of 7th, as it gave a real, thematic purpose to troops... I haven't played enough 8th to really weigh in much, but my gut reaction is to think this would be a boon to more elite armies, as a smaller troop unit can still hold off vs a 'happens to have more guys' elites or whatever. The "number of bodies" thing just seems to be way in favor of orks/nids with 30-strong units.

Unless I am misreading this, then in the case that two troops are both vying for the same objective, it comes down to numbers.

Would the flip side of this not also be true then? Horde armies often field much larger troop blobs for cheaper, meaning that most of the time that 5 space marines will be competing against 4-5 times their number of boyz that cost about the same, and will almost always come up short for the objective. Marines already had objective secured via their codex, so this at least evens things up a little bit. I could be wrong, but on average I feild 3-5 groups of 30 boys, and I rarely see my Space marine opponents field much more than that in groups of marines. 

Silly question: but if I'm correct these rules take effect now don't they? Okay well overall I think it's fine. The additional rules that is. Obj sec. Is restricted to a specific faction detachment/s, first turn roll off is better cause honest it just limited the whole list building aspect, and flyers not holding objectives...while great overall people seem to be forgetting about chaos's heldrake. Its not as good as the other flyers available and now it can't hold objectives (plus it doesn't have supersonic or hard to hit). Still overall the change-up is fine. I'm curious though what else they might change. Also when is the "chapter approved" book coming out? Or is it just similar to FAQ?

I disagree - a flying vehicle that can't land can't possibly hold territory or an objective, it is a great support unit but shouldn't be able to hold objectives. They're very powerful with their high toughness, lots of wounds, good saves, good weapons, and extremely fast movement - they also don't have firing arcs anymore, so positioning doesn't matter - their one downside being that they can't hold objectives makes absolute sense (and was also the case in 7th edition so people should be used to it).

If you just raise the cost of the unit, their overall utility is reduced significantly - this way, they're still just as good at support as they should be, but you just need to bring foot soldiers to hold territory, which is how it absolutely should be. I do think that hover mode flyers should be able to hold objectives while hovering though, as per 7th edition.

Thanks Nick for that clarification. Wanted to be sure I read that right. I hear you on the flyers. Flyers shouldn't hold objectives. It's thing a that is necessary (or at least I do believe it is meant only for support not gaining objs.) just sucks for the heldrake cause I don't think that model isn't any good... Well okay its just OK, but too expensive. Maybe with the new point cost reduction it be more reliable to bring. Still if this chapter approved is a book it isn't going for much then right?

They also went through the book on today's twitch broadcast.
The rules updates will all be in the online FAQ - and all of them are being used at (and are in the rules pack for) the Nova Open (US) and Blood and Glory (UK).