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Post by mcsardo on Jul 9, 2017 12:43:19 GMT -6
I don't think I can make it to the Wednesday night time, but want to get some games in. Is anyone free Tuesday afternoon/evening for a game? I'd like to get a few more games in before the tourney at the end of the month.
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Post by rogerspacem on Jul 9, 2017 13:49:14 GMT -6
Can't say if I'm free, but if I am what are the tournament rules and restrictions?
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Post by mcsardo on Jul 9, 2017 14:54:14 GMT -6
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Post by rogerspacem on Jul 9, 2017 17:20:10 GMT -6
"No understrength units allowed" How is this possible in "Match Play"? If I brought an squad of two veterans is that consider under powered? Curious how is works.
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Post by mcsardo on Jul 9, 2017 18:45:44 GMT -6
There's a line in the BRB that says that if your collection is missing the minimum number of models required for a unit, you can field them as an "understrength unit." RAI is definitely so that if you lose a tactical marine you can still play, but it could create a ton of abuse with Brigade detachments of 1 model units.
Your 2 man vet squads would be fine.
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Post by Nathan on Jul 10, 2017 9:58:52 GMT -6
yeah I was gonna ask about that as well because vespids are stupid expensive to get now and I only have 6 currently. as well as how would that work for things like crisis teams that I tend to run in groups of 3 not there full unit strength. same with the 2 drones per unit thing.
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Post by rogerspacem on Jul 10, 2017 10:09:18 GMT -6
I don't think I can make it to the Wednesday night time, but want to get some games in. Is anyone free Tuesday afternoon/evening for a game? I'd like to get a few more games in before the tourney at the end of the month. Also I can make it Tuesday. What time were you planning to be there? Also any particular Army you want me to play, or you okay with Brother vs Brother battle? |
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Post by Nick P on Jul 10, 2017 10:34:32 GMT -6
yeah I was gonna ask about that as well because vespids are stupid expensive to get now and I only have 6 currently. as well as how would that work for things like crisis teams that I tend to run in groups of 3 not there full unit strength. same with the 2 drones per unit thing. Understrength =/= max strength. What it means is you can't take less than the minimum number of models required. So if tyranid warriros are unit size 3-9, you can't take a unit of 1. It doesn't mean you have to take a unit of 9. There is a line in the BRB that lets you take a unit at less than minimum size, for the purposes of having lost a model or not having enough of them etc - basically, a way of tiding people over until they can bulk up their forces to meet the new requirements for some units (like venomthropes or hive guard - now they require minimum 3, but used to be able to have 1-3 models). That way people can still make use of their models while they save up to buy more to meet requirements. But in a tournament setting, its super easy to abuse - you'd see everyone running 2 brigade detachments for 18 CPS, with 1 model units taking up all the tax spots so they can max out the best units in their lists. Imagine a tyranid army that only took single termagant units to fill up its troop tax, at 4 points each just so they could bring 6 flying hive tyrants and 6 exocrines. That's some serious spam my friend - so we're nixing it. |
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Post by Nathan on Jul 10, 2017 14:05:21 GMT -6
yeah I was gonna ask about that as well because vespids are stupid expensive to get now and I only have 6 currently. as well as how would that work for things like crisis teams that I tend to run in groups of 3 not there full unit strength. same with the 2 drones per unit thing. Understrength =/= max strength. What it means is you can't take less than the minimum number of models required. So if tyranid warriros are unit size 3-9, you can't take a unit of 1. It doesn't mean you have to take a unit of 9. There is a line in the BRB that lets you take a unit at less than minimum size, for the purposes of having lost a model or not having enough of them etc - basically, a way of tiding people over until they can bulk up their forces to meet the new requirements for some units (like venomthropes or hive guard - now they require minimum 3, but used to be able to have 1-3 models). That way people can still make use of their models while they save up to buy more to meet requirements. But in a tournament setting, its super easy to abuse - you'd see everyone running 2 brigade detachments for 18 CPS, with 1 model units taking up all the tax spots so they can max out the best units in their lists. Imagine a tyranid army that only took single termagant units to fill up its troop tax, at 4 points each just so they could bring 6 flying hive tyrants and 6 exocrines. That's some serious spam my friend - so we're nixing it. Ahhhhh ok thank you for breaking that down for me. I never saw that part. |
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Post by mcsardo on Jul 10, 2017 19:47:28 GMT -6
I don't think I can make it to the Wednesday night time, but want to get some games in. Is anyone free Tuesday afternoon/evening for a game? I'd like to get a few more games in before the tourney at the end of the month. Also I can make it Tuesday. What time were you planning to be there? Also any particular Army you want me to play, or you okay with Brother vs Brother battle? Hey Roger, sorry for getting back to you late. I can get there around 5ish if that works for you. |
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Post by rogerspacem on Jul 10, 2017 19:59:28 GMT -6
Also I can make it Tuesday. What time were you planning to be there? Also any particular Army you want me to play, or you okay with Brother vs Brother battle? Hey Roger, sorry for getting back to you late. I can get there around 5ish if that works for you. 5ish is fine. I'll try to be there by 5pm then. I take you have no preference for army, okay then I'll run my dark angels as well. |
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