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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Jun 16, 2017 10:19:31 GMT -6
Here is an army I threw together for tomorrow. Trying to use some units I didn't use in 7th, like my stormraven, terminators and dreadnought. Lots of speed, probably not enough firepower.
Edit: posted below in easier format.
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Jun 16, 2017 10:21:02 GMT -6
This format is way easier to read.
++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [108 PL, 2000pts] ++
+ HQ [13 PL, 257pts] +
Captain on Bike [5 PL, 124pts]: Master-crafted boltgun [3pts], Relic blade [21pts], Twin boltgun [2pts]
Librarian on Bike [8 PL, 133pts]: 1) Veil of Time, 3) Null Zone, Boltgun, Force sword [12pts], Twin boltgun [2pts]
+ Troops [15 PL, 265pts] +
Tactical Squad [5 PL, 101pts]
. 3x Space Marine [39pts]
. Space Marine Sergeant [32pts]: Combi-melta [19pts]
. Space Marine w/Special Weapon [30pts]: Meltagun [17pts]
Tactical Squad [5 PL, 74pts]
. 3x Space Marine [39pts]
. Space Marine Sergeant [13pts]
. Space Marine w/Special Weapon [22pts]: Flamer [9pts]
Tactical Squad [5 PL, 90pts]
. 3x Space Marine [39pts]
. Space Marine Sergeant [13pts]
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon [38pts]: Lascannon [25pts]
+ Elites [51 PL, 858pts] +
Cataphractii Terminator Squad [13 PL, 268pts]
. Cataphractii Sergeant [60pts]: Combi-bolter [2pts], Grenade harness [8pts], Power fist [20pts]
. Cataphractii Terminator [52pts]: Combi-bolter [2pts], Power fist [20pts]
. Cataphractii Terminator [52pts]: Combi-bolter [2pts], Power fist [20pts]
. Cataphractii Terminator [52pts]: Combi-bolter [2pts], Power fist [20pts]
. Cataphractii Terminator [52pts]: Combi-bolter [2pts], Power fist [20pts]
Company Veterans on Bikes [14 PL, 154pts]
. Space Marine Biker Veteran [41pts]: Boltgun, Power axe [5pts], Twin boltgun [2pts]
. Space Marine Biker Veteran [36pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword, Twin boltgun [2pts]
. Space Marine Biker Veteran [36pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword, Twin boltgun [2pts]
. Veteran Biker Sergreant [41pts]: Boltgun, Power axe [5pts], Twin boltgun [2pts]
Contemptor Dreadnought [8 PL, 165pts]: Combi-bolter [2pts], Dreadnought combat weapon [40pts], Kheres pattern assault cannon [25pts]
Vanguard Veteran Squad [8 PL, 120pts]: Jump Pack [1 PL, 10pts]
. Space Marine Veteran [16pts]: Bolt Pistol & Chainsword
. Space Marine Veteran [16pts]: Bolt Pistol & Chainsword
. Space Marine Veteran [29pts]: 2x Lightning Claw [13pts]
. Space Marine Veteran [20pts]: Bolt pistol, Power sword [4pts]
. Veteran Sergeant [29pts]: 2x Lightning Claw [13pts]
Vanguard Veteran Squad [8 PL, 151pts]: Jump Pack [1 PL, 10pts]
. Space Marine Veteran [36pts]: Power fist [20pts]
. Space Marine Veteran [21pts]: Bolt pistol, Storm shield [5pts]
. Space Marine Veteran [21pts]: Chainsword, Storm shield [5pts]
. Space Marine Veteran [21pts]: Bolt Pistol & Chainsword, Power axe [5pts]
. Veteran Sergeant [42pts]: Relic blade [21pts], Storm shield [5pts]
+ Heavy Support [9 PL, 202pts] +
Predator [9 PL, 202pts]: Twin lascannon [50pts], Two Lascannons [50pts]
+ Flyer [15 PL, 303pts] +
Stormraven Gunship [15 PL, 303pts]: Twin assault cannon [35pts], Twin multi-melta [54pts], Two Stormstrike Missile Launchers [42pts]
+ Dedicated Transport [5 PL, 115pts] +
Razorback [5 PL, 115pts]: Twin lascannon [50pts]
++ Total: [108 PL, 2000pts] ++
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Post by rogerspacem on Jun 16, 2017 12:31:17 GMT -6
Agreed with the predator and I take it the stromtalon is going to carrying your hq's and a squad of tacts with dread. But what is your opinion of terminators? I'm still in doubt of whether they can still do good, but I had single bad game with them.
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Jun 16, 2017 12:57:13 GMT -6
Agreed with the predator and I take it the stromtalon is going to carrying your hq's and a squad of tacts with dread. But what is your opinion of terminators? I'm still in doubt of whether they can still do good, but I had single bad game with them. Should've clarified: termis and dreadnought are probably going with the raven. One squad of tacticals in razorback. Other squad is probabably walking. And I realize that 2 razorbacks are better than one Predator but I don't have 2 more so... Probably putting claws on a few termis eventually but they are currently armless so this is easier for my games tomorrow |
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Jun 16, 2017 12:57:55 GMT -6
My hqs are on Bikes. Riding around with the other bikes and vanguard squads
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Post by Nick P on Jun 16, 2017 13:23:05 GMT -6
See I think this list just looks fun man, and that's what excites me about 8th. I haven't seen anything yet that looks broken or like a super good combo- everything is just at the same power level and every army just looks like fun, and I love it so much. I look forward to getting a game tomorrow man!
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Jun 16, 2017 13:30:03 GMT -6
Oh yeah. I'm definitely satisfied with marines in 8th (just want more chapter flavor of course).
I'm testing out melee Bikers, which should be fun. And the stormraven is stacked with guns, although it is also 300 points.
My main struggle is figuring out how to use all of the elite characters (ancients, champions, and apothecaries) and 2-man honor guard squad.
Plus, I'll have to figure out sternguard. They seem like great meq killers at the moment, but they also seem to take up a similar role as the intercessors.
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Jun 19, 2017 8:42:44 GMT -6
I was looking at the flyer stats in the index and realized something weird: the storm hawk is flat out better than the storm talon in every way. Same amount of points but it moves slightly faster, has +1 T, rerolls save rolls of 1, and has an extra gun...
Same points cost. And their profiles are right next to each other. That seems like a weird balance oversight to me.
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Post by Nick P on Jun 19, 2017 10:57:11 GMT -6
Do they have the same guns? Or does the stormhawk have different options? Keep in mind you need to purchase your weapons, so they may have the base points cost, but the nature of having an extra gun will mean that the stormhawk has to pay for that extra gun as well.
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Jun 19, 2017 11:22:06 GMT -6
No, they have different base costs, same after adding weapons. Hawk starts 25 points cheaper. Because the hawk has 2 assault cannons, 2 h. Bolters and an icarus cannon and the talon has twin a cannon and twin h bolters, they end up being the same cost.
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Post by Nick P on Jun 19, 2017 11:34:10 GMT -6
haha wow thats nuts - then yeah, just take a stormhawk every single time then right?
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Jun 19, 2017 11:53:31 GMT -6
Yep it's goofy. I wish my stormraven was a bit cheaper. It's double the price for 4 more wounds and transport capacity. I'm gonna keep using it though cause it's still a good fire magnet.
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