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Post by cj on May 27, 2017 9:45:57 GMT -6
That's terrifying. It's wounding even close combat hive tyrants on 2+
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 14:59:45 GMT -6
Still gotta use that silly d6 chart to come in from reserves but overall it looks like it'll be an interesting army to play against. Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed to see aberrants didn't change at all and we still have to use the chart for ambush. It's particularly problematic because now I can't take formations to roll two dice on the chart. Hopefully something else in the codex, like a character special rule, will give some way to mitigate the randomness of the chart. Would have loved to see the ambush chart go, but with the changes to reserves you'll only be able to Ambush half of the force any way. Seems like the GSC will play more like Guard now, with just a handful of assault units popping out of the shadows to charge, rather then the Alpha strike army they were before.
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on May 27, 2017 15:20:12 GMT -6
Obviously, we haven't seen the full profile, but the aberrants definitely look much weaker than the other Power 7 units. Especially if the unit size is still 4. I guess you can argue that they can't get insta-killed (kinda like tyranid warriors), but a T4 5+ and 5+ FNP with 2 wounds is pretty easy to kill.
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Post by Nick P on May 27, 2017 16:03:36 GMT -6
Still gotta use that silly d6 chart to come in from reserves but overall it looks like it'll be an interesting army to play against. Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed to see aberrants didn't change at all and we still have to use the chart for ambush. It's particularly problematic because now I can't take formations to roll two dice on the chart. Hopefully something else in the codex, like a character special rule, will give some way to mitigate the randomness of the chart. Would have loved to see the ambush chart go, but with the changes to reserves you'll only be able to Ambush half of the force any way. Seems like the GSC will play more like Guard now, with just a handful of assault units popping out of the shadows to charge, rather then the Alpha strike armyj they were before. I'm wondering what the chart looks like though - my bet is it's a lot more forgiving, with most of the options being some variation of 9" away from enemy units with different options for advancing + charging and moving + advancing + charging. Deep strike is much more forgiving, I expect cult ambush to be as well
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Post by Russell on May 27, 2017 16:53:54 GMT -6
welp
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Post by Nick P on May 27, 2017 18:26:36 GMT -6
Turns out my 8th edition army is primaris marines
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Post by Joelercoaster on May 27, 2017 18:32:18 GMT -6
Random, but swarmy was 15 power right? Which iirc is 15 tac Marines? Which probably equals Drop to around 200 puntkes?
Is my theory math right here?
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Post by Nick P on May 28, 2017 19:41:36 GMT -6
So far the profiles we have seen both power and points for, the ratio has been almost exactly 20:1 every time. I think the inceptors were 19:1 and the hellblasters like 21:1 but all right in that ballpark.
So that would put swarmy at 300
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on May 28, 2017 20:58:23 GMT -6
Yeah plus power takes into account weapons and upgrades so a power 5 tac squad with a special and combi is like 90-100 points
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 2:13:13 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 2:31:27 GMT -6
Someone got there hands on the Chaos Index and leaked some pics of the CSM section: imgur.com/a/kPLQcLots of interesting things here; Namely Rhino transports went WAY up in price to 70 points per model. Lord of Skulls costs 465, nearly half of his previously insane 888 point tag. Fallen have their own unit entry, so maybe they finally have special rules and aren't just chosen wannabes. Looks like Heldrakes, and possibly other flyers, are no longer hit only on 6's and can be charged.
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Post by Nick P on May 29, 2017 5:56:58 GMT -6
This makes me want to do mine in space wolves colors now
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Post by Joelercoaster on May 29, 2017 6:26:34 GMT -6
What about them Tyranid leaks hmm? HHMMM? ? Those primaris do look amazing, though.
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Post by Nick P on May 29, 2017 10:00:22 GMT -6
What about them Tyranid leaks hmm? HHMMM? ? Those primaris do look amazing, though. There are nids leaks?
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Post by jesse on May 29, 2017 12:07:14 GMT -6
Bolter and Chainsword has Blood Angel/Marine leaks up, and Naftka might have Sisters leaks (no pics for the Sisters one as proof).
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