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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 14:57:04 GMT -6
I've developed a different kind of list which rather than focusing on MSU only employs a bit of mechanized, MSU, and deathstar strategy.
I believe there is quite a bit of tactical flexibility with this list. I have option to deploy units in transports, via infiltrate, or via cult ambush depending on my opponent. Most of the army focuses on skirmishing the enemy, jumping on and off the table to ambush and replenish their ranks. The vehicles are in the list to take hull points off of enemy transports. The 20 acolytes, broodcoven, and Iconward combine together to make a deathstar. Its not a particularly unkillable star, but it does have good survivability, a ton of damage out put, and is a big force multiplier to the rest of the army. Let me know what you think about the list.
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Apr 8, 2017 15:35:19 GMT -6
So did the FAQ clarify that the doting throng gets rerolling blessings from any Magus? I thought it was just the Magus in the formation. Plus its hatred ability is kinda redundant with a primus as well.
What you're trying to do makes sense though, with all the buffs from the HQs. I like the cavalcade too, it's fun.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 16:12:21 GMT -6
So did the FAQ clarify that the doting throng gets re-rolling blessings from any Magus? I thought it was just the Magus in the formation. Plus its hatred ability is kinda redundant with a primus as well. What you're trying to do makes sense though, with all the buffs from the HQs. I like the cavalcade too, it's fun. Here is the ruling: Q: Do the rules for The Doting Throng apply even if a Magus other than that purchased in that specific Formation is casting a blessing upon them?
A: Yes.The Magus' zealot effect is a little better IMO than the Primus' hatred though, as the Magus' effect applies to every round of combat, not just the first. Additionally, it gives me two sources of hatred in case one character dies. All in all, the acolyte-star has a pile of rules: Preferred Enemy, Hatred, Zealot, Fearless, Adamantium Will, Furious Charge, Feel no Pain (6+), Shrouded (Turn 1), Counter Attack, and Fleet. The Heroes in it are really proficient in combat, and the acolytes are throwing out 80 rending attacks that re-roll hits at WS 5 on any given turn. Its not a top tier star, but I think it can hold its own. Depending on the powers I get it can become much better. Psychic Stimulus, Might From Beyond, and Endurance all multiply its usefulness. |
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Apr 8, 2017 16:59:09 GMT -6
So did the FAQ clarify that the doting throng gets re-rolling blessings from any Magus? I thought it was just the Magus in the formation. Plus its hatred ability is kinda redundant with a primus as well. What you're trying to do makes sense though, with all the buffs from the HQs. I like the cavalcade too, it's fun. Here is the ruling: Q: Do the rules for The Doting Throng apply even if a Magus other than that purchased in that specific Formation is casting a blessing upon them?
A: Yes.The Magus' zealot effect is a little better IMO than the Primus' hatred though, as the Magus' effect applies to every round of combat, not just the first. Additionally, it gives me two sources of hatred in case one character dies. All in all, the acolyte-star has a pile of rules: Preferred Enemy, Hatred, Zealot, Fearless, Adamantium Will, Furious Charge, Feel no Pain (6+), Shrouded (Turn 1), Counter Attack, and Fleet. The Heroes in it are really proficient in combat, and the acolytes are throwing out 80 rending attacks that re-roll hits at WS 5 on any given turn. Its not a top tier star, but I think it can hold its own. Depending on the powers I get it can become much better. Psychic Stimulus, Might From Beyond, and Endurance all multiply its usefulness. Huh, weird that they made the opposite ruling for the primus in subterranean swarm. And yeah I know it's better, but that's why the primus isn't necessary. Having a secondary source isn't really necessary since they automatically pass LOS. I've really want to use doting throng (and did last week) but I can't help feeling like the magus is better in a supporting role outside of combat so he can cast powers. It's definitely a fun star though. And with the detachment, you can have all your MSUs regain your models. So it's a good list though. Whyd you go with talons on the metamorphs? |
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Post by nidhammer on Apr 23, 2017 19:50:17 GMT -6
Hi, have been following your discussions on the Cult detachments and formations so thank you for sharing your strategies ( Will, Eric, Nick etc). I'm a novice Nid player trying out Cults for first time. My opponent will be a mechanised, gun line Chaos Iron Warriors list. My strategy is create an Anvil from all my Nids units sitting on a Terrain piece with venomthropes providing 2+ cover save - other than Flyrant, Trygon and Lictor. Then summon heaps of metamorphs cult ambushing as well as Nid deep strikers to act as the Hammer to squish my opponent. Can you suggest from your experience what I should do differently?!
++Cult Combined Arms Detachment +
Patriarch [ML 2] - Warlord
Magus [ML 2, the crouchling]
Acolyte Hybrids [x5]
Acolyte Hybrids [x5]
++Cult Combined Arms Detachment +
Magus [ML 2, the crouchling]
Magus [ML 2, the crouchling]
Metamorphs [x5, x5 talons]
Metamorphs [x5, x5 talons]
+Subterranean Uprising Formation+
Acolyte Hybrids [x5, Heavy Rock Saw]
Acolyte Hybrids [x5, Heavy Rock Saw]
Metamorphs [x5, x5 claws, 1xhand flamer, cult icon]
+Tyranids CAD+
Flyrant with TLBLD and Wings
Termagants [x10 Fleshborers]
Termagants [x10 Fleshborers]
Zoanthropes [x2]
Lictor [x1]
Venomthropes [x2]
Carnafex with TLBLD
Exocrine
Trygon Prime [Toxin sacs]
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 21:16:55 GMT -6
You have all the main heavy hitters for GSC and nids;
Flyrant: Check
Magus Spam for Summoning: Check
Subterranean Uprising: Check
That said, I think the Sub Uprising formation has little value in your list. 15 T3 S4 models won't do much without adequate support, and the CAD GSC can't infiltrate/ambush turn 1 so the sub uprising units will be out on the field all by themselves.
If the goal is to summon in a whole new GSC list using the psykers, don't bother with the formations.
Metamorphs are also elites not troops; so you'll need to use acolytes instead of the metamorphs in your second CAD
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