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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Mar 5, 2017 23:32:33 GMT -6
Here's my test model. I based it with the Vallejo version of Xereus Purple and layered/highlighted with mixes of Xerus and Genestealer Purple. Gold is balthasar and gehenna's. C&C. I honestly feel like it's pretty plain. Any ideas for sprucing it up? And I need a color for the eyes. Should I go with a lighter purple on the highlights? My vets will get white shoulder pads and the HQs will have plenty of bling.
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Post by Nick P on Mar 6, 2017 7:42:18 GMT -6
Pro Tip: upload the images to a hosting site like Imgur, instead of attaching them to your post like a word document; it means they show up at full resolution and doesn't require someone to click them to see them at full scale. Plus imgur is really easy to use and free!
That purple looks great man, you did a really good job. I love the gold too, overall I think you did a great job - it definitely needs "something" to make it pop, you're right. I think finishing the base, and doing the eyes, will help tremendously. It also wouldn't hurt to do one more highlight of straight genestealer purple, just on the sharpest corners/edges at the top, to break up the model a bit more and give it more definition. Just like a dot on the corner of the crest of the helmet, the corners of the armor on the shins/arms, and along the hard edges of the top part of the backpack, would do wonders I think.
But also adding the transfers will make him pop too, so don't forget about that!
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Mar 6, 2017 7:57:17 GMT -6
Haha I think I did it on my first couple posts here but thought I was being a pro by loading it straight on the page this time.
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Post by 1D3chan on Mar 6, 2017 8:06:29 GMT -6
I don't know if you're trying to stick to a very "by-the-book" or very specific spot color scheme that only allows the gold on the trim of the shoulder pads, but if not, I would do more gold accents. It's not really an accent yet as is.
When I stick to a minimum 1 or 2 colors in art, plus neutrals like black and white, you have your primary show up the most (purple) and your secondary (gold) should show up in at least a few other smaller places - at least 3 different parts, even if they're small, to show that it's purposeful and coherent.
If you look at the stormcast that are posted here, they are Silver primary but, the Crimson secondary shows up in multiple spots followed by bronze. The really good necron schemes posted here are a good example of using a neutral (metal/gray) as your primary and then having two secondary to play with (teal, gold). You'll see on some models the teal is the secondary and the gold are the accents, some models it's the other way around. But all of them have both of those accent colors repeated in a couple places to pull it together. Same goes for the scheme that's metal and then Red and Green. These are posts in the Painting Logs section of this site
This is just one theory/idea, not a right or wrong by any means. I would personally love to see more gold and would also be very pleased to see really bold whites worked in to some models like you said - whether it's their shoulder pads or their heads.
Also, as always, basing goes an incredibly long way in changing how a model looks because you can introduce a brand new, very bold color to the entire piece.
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Mar 6, 2017 8:20:32 GMT -6
I don't know if you're trying to stick to a very "by-the-book" or very specific spot color scheme that only allows the gold on the trim of the shoulder pads, but if not, I would do more gold accents. It's not really an accent yet as is. When I stick to a minimum 1 or 2 colors in art, plus neutrals like black and white, you have your primary show up the most (purple) and your secondary (gold) should show up in at least a few other smaller places - at least 3 different parts, even if they're small, to show that it's purposeful and coherent. If you look at the stormcast that are posted here, they are Silver primary but, the Crimson secondary shows up in multiple spots followed by bronze. The really good necron schemes posted here are a good example of using a neutral (metal/gray) as your primary and then having two secondary to play with (teal, gold). You'll see on some models the teal is the secondary and the gold are the accents, some models it's the other way around. But all of them have both of those accent colors repeated in a couple places to pull it together. Same goes for the scheme that's metal and then Red and Green. These are posts in the Painting Logs section of this site This is just one theory/idea, not a right or wrong by any means. I would personally love to see more gold and would also be very pleased to see really bold whites worked in to some models like you said - whether it's their shoulder pads or their heads. Also, as always, basing goes an incredibly long way in changing how a model looks because you can introduce a brand new, very bold color to the entire piece. Thanks for the input. I definitely agree. I'm not totally sticking to the book as much as just leaving room for increased detail in my vets. But I could use more gold and need to figure out where else to paint it. Maybe a knee pad? Would the chest straps look good in gold? These guys don't have big gold aquilla crests like my ultramarines so ill have to figure it out.
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Post by Nick P on Mar 6, 2017 8:38:18 GMT -6
I've seen some AWESOME emperor's children tacticals that strike that balance between "standing out as a legionaire of the EC" and "but also this is a mass produced armor set and so should be a little more plain" very well - and I think you're extremely close to that mark.
I would say that there are 2-3 things that really help - painting 1/both knee pads gold as well, painting the top plate of the backpack gold, and if you feel like it (and don't feel like its too much) painting the face gold (like just the part with the slits in it below the eyes).
That, and the big white III for the 3rd legion and a golden EC logo on the shoulder pads, and you'll have an amazing tactical on your hands in my opinion.
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Mar 8, 2017 7:53:40 GMT -6
How does this look? Tried to take those suggestions into consideration for test model #2
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Mar 8, 2017 16:26:06 GMT -6
Another theme I saw was painting the studs gold rather than the kneepad. What would look better for some regular tacticals? Trying to be extravagant while leaving room to add more gold with sargeants/vets.
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Post by Nick P on Mar 8, 2017 17:29:25 GMT -6
Dude that looks 10000x better already, great job! Just that added bit of gold makes it pop, and the red eyes really stand out. As for the studs on the shoulder pads/shins of the various MKIV models, I've been painting mine gold for Thousand Sons (which have a similar problem to EC - gold + primary color = boring), and it makes it stand out wonderfully.
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Post by 1D3chan on Mar 8, 2017 19:05:48 GMT -6
How does this look? Tried to take those suggestions into consideration for test model #2 I like this a lot better man, this is exactly what I envisioned when I described it. I think it's the right amount of accent color in several different places. If I had to choose, I'd do the knee(s) gold instead of the studs based on aesthetics alone but I don't really know if those things signify anything for marines.
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Mar 8, 2017 21:35:58 GMT -6
Thanks dudes. Sorry about the blurry picture. Took it on my way out this morning.
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Post by Russell on Mar 8, 2017 22:38:13 GMT -6
Have you considered using green to paint the eye lenses?
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Post by Russell on Mar 8, 2017 22:39:14 GMT -6
I ask because if you did you'd have a nice little color triad in purple green and gold [yellow]
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Mar 8, 2017 23:21:30 GMT -6
I ask because if you did you'd have a nice little color triad in purple green and gold [yellow] That was my other option. I've never done greens eyes so I just went with red but I'll test it on a model
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