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Post by rogerspacem on Oct 6, 2016 12:49:07 GMT -6
Disciples of Mannon - Crimson Slaughter.
Since I have been away from the games, and the fun, at the dojo, I figured to do some research on the other chaos books. Found one formation called, "Disciples of Mannon." I will admit I do not have the book, nor could I find a good reference. Requirement: 1x Sorcerer 1x possessed
Benefit: Anytime your opponent rolls EXACTLY two dice (example: a Leadership check, for example) check to see if it matches your portents. If there's a match, you roll a further d6, and on a 1-3 you get 10 Pink Horrors, 4-5 3 Screamers or Flamers, and a 6 gets you a Herald or a Lord of Change. They immediately pop up within 18 of the Sorcerer. If he bites a bullet, no Tzeentchian fun...
I got a couple of questions though regarding this formation.
1) Does the Herald Tzeh. and Lord of Change come with additional points to upgrade? 2) If I bring another formation of this, do I have possibly two set of dice that if my opponent rolls either will trigger the summoning ability?
Personal Answers: A1) I'm certain I don't have any upgrade points for the Herald or Lord, but I figured to ask. A2) I want to say yes because its roughly (i think) a 5% chance that my opponent will roll that same number using exactly TWO DICE! Odds are it will never happen (unless that person rolls a lot of move through covers.)
Just running numbers and bored at work at the moment. Enlighten me!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 13:25:09 GMT -6
1.) Per the conjuration power section in the core rulebook "Unless stated otherwise, the new unit cannot take any additional options or upgrades." As a result you cannot upgrade any of the summoned units in any way. 2.) Yes, if you had more than one of this formation you'd roll twice and be able to trigger the effect once for each formation.
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Post by rogerspacem on Oct 6, 2016 13:39:44 GMT -6
Perfect. Okay thanks Will. Maybe next time I swing by the dojo I'll try this out. Just need possessed. two squads too...hmm.
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Post by Nick P on Oct 10, 2016 5:56:01 GMT -6
It's also worth noting that by the letter of the rule, I don't think your opponent needs to roll your exact same numbers - just the total. So if you roll a 7 (the most likely) with, for example, a 2 and 5, then whenever they roll a 7 you summon a unit - not just when they roll 2 and 5. So its going to come up more than 5% I would think (unless you roll snake eyes or box cars lol)
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Post by 1D3chan on Oct 10, 2016 11:29:16 GMT -6
It's also worth noting that by the letter of the rule, I don't think your opponent needs to roll your exact same numbers - just the total. So if you roll a 7 (the most likely) with, for example, a 2 and 5, then whenever they roll a 7 you summon a unit - not just when they roll 2 and 5. So its going to come up more than 5% I would think (unless you roll snake eyes or box cars lol) Eh, I don't think that's what it says and I definitely don't think that's what it was meant to be/say. It says "matches," not "equals". Matches meaning both pieces match. Equals would be their numeric sum. Admittedly, I've never seen it played or played against it though. I've never even heard of it.
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Post by rogerspacem on Oct 10, 2016 11:47:15 GMT -6
It's also worth noting that by the letter of the rule, I don't think your opponent needs to roll your exact same numbers - just the total. So if you roll a 7 (the most likely) with, for example, a 2 and 5, then whenever they roll a 7 you summon a unit - not just when they roll 2 and 5. So its going to come up more than 5% I would think (unless you roll snake eyes or box cars lol) Eh, I don't think that's what it says and I definitely don't think that's what it was meant to be/say. It says "matches," not "equals". Matches meaning both pieces match. Equals would be their numeric sum. Admittedly, I've never seen it played or played against it though. I've never even heard of it. I see what you trying to say nick, but I am more inclined to agree with D3. Otherwise such a method would probably be more in use, and would be heard more often. It would have been nice
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Post by Nick P on Oct 11, 2016 9:04:13 GMT -6
Eh, you guys are probably right - it does say "matches the 2 dice", somehow in my reading of the rules I missed the "2 dice" part, which makes it seem more likely they want the exact numbers present.
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