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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Oct 3, 2016 22:35:24 GMT -6
Looks like lots of people are picking up the GSC boxes. I'm still trying to figure out how I want to run mine, but I noticed the boxes don't come with lots of duplicate bits, particularly when it comes to the metamorph cc and acolyte heavy weapons.
So if anybody has any extra bits after this, lemme know. I know I'm looking for some crushing claws, whips, and rock saws.
I will definitely trade extra cult bits as well as a ton of relevant nids bits. I have plenty of talons, claws, and heads.
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Post by Nick P on Oct 4, 2016 8:13:49 GMT -6
Unfortunately I think *everyone* is looking for crushing claws, whips, and rock saws/drills. Looks like its going to have to be eBay for the extra bits from bit-companies - that's the route I'm going at least. I know I'm going to try to convert my dozen-or-so tyrant guard crushing claws into metamorph claws...or just use Instant Mold to make a few extra copies out of green stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 8:22:26 GMT -6
I think the best method to get more claws is going to be shaving down one of the arms and using an instant mold/GS mold to make Green Stuff copies. Claws and Rocksaws are definitely going to cost $7-$8 each on EBay if not more. I can't imagine anyone putting anything but Claws or Lashes on the metamorphs.
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Oct 4, 2016 8:28:08 GMT -6
Unfortunately I think *everyone* is looking for crushing claws, whips, and rock saws/drills. Looks like its going to have to be eBay for the extra bits from bit-companies - that's the route I'm going at least. I know I'm going to try to convert my dozen-or-so tyrant guard crushing claws into metamorph claws...or just use Instant Mold to make a few extra copies out of green stuff. Let me know how the guard claws work. I would definitely trade/buy some if you have extras. I think I'm going to convert some venomthrope whips as well for the metamorphs. I would also trade a drill/cutter for a saw, as I think I'll go for the armourbane over the pulverize and snip. |
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Oct 4, 2016 8:31:39 GMT -6
I think the best method to get more claws is going to be shaving down one of the arms and using an instant mold/GS mold to make Green Stuff copies. Claws and Rocksaws are definitely going to cost $7-$8 each on EBay if not more. I can't imagine anyone putting anything but Claws or Lashes on the metamorphs. Yeah, I agree. Also, that one "lictor-like" talon looked super cool, but there was only one of them in the box (not like I would use it anyway). GW is really taking advantage of the GSC demand right now. I am pretty disappointed at the lack of duplicate bits in a box costing $40 for 5 models. |
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Post by Nick P on Oct 4, 2016 8:37:10 GMT -6
Yeah but that's also just how GW does business. There's only 1 flamer/melta/plasma in a space marine box, only 1 assault cannon in a terminator box, etc etc etc. This is just standard practice - if they had enough bits to equip all 5 with all available options (ie, 5 claws, 5 whips, 10 talons, 2 drills, 2 cutters, 2 saws) the box would have an extra sprue and cost $60.
If I have extra saws, they're yours - I'm going to do one unit of saws, one of drills, and one of cutters to focus on tanks (saws), tanks/GMC/MCs (drills), and multi-wound infantry (cutters).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 9:00:05 GMT -6
I'm just going to make 4 guys with saws to summon in, as IMO they are the only mining weapon you "need". Most multi wound stuff is T5 or better so I think its pretty unlikely that you'll get the "snip" on the cutters to kick in. The armorbane on the saw is better then the Str 10 on the Drill most of the time, but if you stick a Primus in a squad of drills to get re-rolls to hit I think you could do some work. Never the less, saws all the way for me.
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Oct 4, 2016 9:07:14 GMT -6
Yeah but that's also just how GW does business. There's only 1 flamer/melta/plasma in a space marine box, only 1 assault cannon in a terminator box, etc etc etc. This is just standard practice - if they had enough bits to equip all 5 with all available options (ie, 5 claws, 5 whips, 10 talons, 2 drills, 2 cutters, 2 saws) the box would have an extra sprue and cost $60. Oh yeah, totally. But they have been improving the utility of these boxes recently, so this just seems like a step backwards. The tactical box has the most options it has ever had, and both the Sternguard and Vanguard veteran boxes have lots of duplicates (although they aren't perfect, you can get 2 of each combi-weapon, 4 claws, 4 TH/SS, etc.) Obviously, Marines generally get the best releases though. So is anyone building these guys just for infantry killing? I was thinking of doing one squad with saws but one with maybe a flamer or 2 and the lw/bs on the leader. I'm also having the urge to kit out hybrid squads (ie. Saw and flamers) because of the randomness of Cult Ambush. Or is that still a bad idea? I just hate the idea of having my saw squad have to enter from my end, while my flamer squad gets put in assault range turn 1 while my opponent is still in their transports. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 9:28:47 GMT -6
For exactly the reason that cult ambush is so random I'm keeping all of the acolytes I buy with points bare bones, save for maybe an Icon. A 10 man squad with an Icon runs only 90 points, but on the charge they dish out 40 rending attacks at WS 5. That should annihilate any MEQ or MC, and you can easily take multiple squads like that in a Subterranean Uprising formation. Metamorphs with claws are just about the best multi-purpose unit in the codex, and you can take Russes or neophytes with heavy weapons to pop transports. At least, that is my plan. I'm looking at running a CAD + First Curse + Subterranean Uprising as that seems like the most viable option for getting your Acolytes into Close Combat. You don't get the D6 guys back that way, or shrouded, but you get objective secured on the Neophytes and can trim some of the fat off from the Brood Cycle or Neophyte Cavalcade requirements.
I think you should just try to summon in Acolytes with the heavy weapons, buying them with your points isn't all that cost effective, but, for 3 warp charges you can summon in a 10 man acolyte squad with 4 saws, a Bone Sword champion, and an Icon.
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Oct 4, 2016 9:47:14 GMT -6
For exactly the reason that cult ambush is so random I'm keeping all of the acolytes I buy with points bare bones, save for maybe an Icon. A 10 man squad with an Icon runs only 90 points, but on the charge they dish out 40 rending attacks at WS 5. That should annihilate any MEQ or MC, and you can easily take multiple squads like that in a Subterranean Uprising formation. Metamorphs with claws are just about the best multi-purpose unit in the codex, and you can take Russes or neophytes with heavy weapons to pop transports. At least, that is my plan. I'm looking at running a CAD + a Subterranean Uprising formation as that seems like the most viable option for getting your Acolytes into Close Combat. You don't get the D6 guys back that way, or shrouded, but you get objective secured on the Neophytes and can trim some of the fat off from the Brood Cycle or Neophyte Cavalcade requirements. I think you should just try to summon in Acolytes with the heavy weapons, buying them with your points isn't all that cost effective, but, for 3 warp charges you can summon in a 10 man acolyte squad with 4 saws, a Bone Sword champion, and an Icon. With that conjuration power, are they still deep striking onto the table? Do you get to roll on cult ambush? Because that is pretty damn good. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 9:47:58 GMT -6
You roll on cult ambush when you summon them, it is amazingly good.
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Post by Nick P on Oct 4, 2016 13:25:50 GMT -6
Good news, bits sites are starting to throw up bits for GSC (just a couple so far it looks like), and the extra bits are only going for like $3. Might have to hop in on the bits market for these guys before it gets hot.
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Oct 4, 2016 14:27:42 GMT -6
Which ones? Didn't see anything on ebay.
Also, I could be wrong but it looks like there are "technically" a couple extra talons and claws in the box. They simply look like biomorph rending claws and scything talons rather than the awesome crushing claw and lictor talon.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 14:39:39 GMT -6
The scything talons and the lictor talons are the metamorph talons. The mini crushing claw is the metamorph claw. The box comes with 3 talons, one double talon, a claw, and a lash if I recall correctly.
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Post by Nick P on Oct 5, 2016 7:13:11 GMT -6
Which ones? Didn't see anything on ebay. Also, I could be wrong but it looks like there are "technically" a couple extra talons and claws in the box. They simply look like biomorph rending claws and scything talons rather than the awesome crushing claw and lictor talon. What will said - all the talons (lictor and otherwise) are Talons, there is only 1 law (the crushing claw), and then everyone gets rending claws as standard. There is also 1 double-talon, for the +2 WS. |
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