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Post by Nick P on Jul 8, 2016 7:57:07 GMT -6
www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/age-of-darkness-army-list-tablet.html Next friday, FW is releasing the full rules for 30k armies digitally on ipad/ereader. For those who didn't want to shell out for 6 hardback books at $80 a pop, now you can get all the rules on your tablet/phone for way cheaper ($50 for the generic rules, $50 for the specific legion units/primarchs).
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Post by mcsardo on Jul 8, 2016 8:28:26 GMT -6
Oh man, that's pretty awesome. With the obscenely high barriers to entry coming down a bit, I might just have to jump in...
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Post by Nick P on Jul 8, 2016 9:21:01 GMT -6
Better do it soon - the Betrayal at Calth box set is going out of print in the next couple weeks; if you have any interest in getting into the game, the $120 pricetag (from online 20-25% off retailers) is the best deal around. After the box is discontinued, GW is selling the pieces individually...for a significant mark up.
Right now its $120 or so for 30 marines, 5 terminators, a dreadnought, and 2 characters. The new prices will be $50 for 10 marines, $65 for 5 terminators, $60 for the dread, and $50 for the 2 characters in a blister. Even if you might not go through with the legion, you could sell it for more than you paid based on those prices.
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Post by Asyrean on Jul 9, 2016 18:50:19 GMT -6
Better do it soon - the Betrayal at Calth box set is going out of print in the next couple weeks; if you have any interest in getting into the game, the $120 pricetag (from online 20-25% off retailers) is the best deal around. After the box is discontinued, GW is selling the pieces individually...for a significant mark up. Right now its $120 or so for 30 marines, 5 terminators, a dreadnought, and 2 characters. The new prices will be $50 for 10 marines, $65 for 5 terminators, $60 for the dread, and $50 for the 2 characters in a blister. Even if you might not go through with the legion, you could sell it for more than you paid based on those prices. Good call. The individual units went up for pre order today! Those Mark IV marines are awesome
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Post by Luke GR on Jul 11, 2016 11:32:18 GMT -6
I have two of the digital red books and will be picking up the Legion one. They're very nice and easy to flip through on a tablet during a game.
I haven't heard that BaC is going out of print any time soon, it's even mentioned in the new White Dwarf with the individual kits. If anyone does want to jump in I'd pick up BaC just in case as it is a stupid good deal.
The more reliable rumor mongers are also saying another HH era box is due out before the end of the year. Most are pointing toward a Space Wolves vs 1000 Sons box similar to BaC. Speculation on what's in it is all over the place at the moment though. I'm hoping for some plastic Breachers as they look awesome but a full resin squad is pretty expensive.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 12:02:16 GMT -6
Really, Wolves vs Sons? Seem like that would be a poor choice, considering both of those are so aesthetically different from the other legions (Scarabs and Wolf Talismans abound). Wouldn't it make more sense for something like Imperial Fists and Iron Warriors? Also would be an excuse to release MK III Armor tacticals in plastic. Just a strange move if they go for wolves and sons IMO.
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Post by Asyrean on Jul 11, 2016 12:24:31 GMT -6
I heard the same thing. "Burning of Prospero" is the next box. If the rumor is true, of course.
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Jul 11, 2016 16:46:58 GMT -6
I just picked up BaC because the deal is so damn good, even though I haven't started 30k yet. Anyone ever use these guys for 40k? I'm either gonna add them to my 40k ultramarines or try painting them as sons or children and stash them for now. Also, I was fooling around on battlescribe and couldnt find a place for the chaplain in the foc. What is he classified as in 30k?
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Post by Luke GR on Jul 11, 2016 23:01:01 GMT -6
I just picked up BaC because the deal is so damn good, even though I haven't started 30k yet. Anyone ever use these guys for 40k? I'm either gonna add them to my 40k ultramarines or try painting them as sons or children and stash them for now. Also, I was fooling around on battlescribe and couldnt find a place for the chaplain in the foc. What is he classified as in 30k? Under Legion Centurion click on the consul option and it's under there. Consuls are all the sub types of HQs like Chaplain and Librarian and many more 30k specific types. As for the Wolves vs 1K Sons box, if there's no specific markings it can still be used for general Marines. Some Breachers from the Wolves going into a building on Prospero defended by a Librarian and escorts could work for a Calth style game. Although the old rumors of Iron Warriors vs Imperial Fists in a boarding action at Phal would work better I think. And give us lots of Breachers! The timing for the Prospero box would fit better with the FW release of Book VII and the 40k Fenris stuff going on too.
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Post by Nick P on Jul 12, 2016 8:50:27 GMT -6
Just to clarify some of the rumors - I think they're getting a bit mixed up with all the background noise on the internet:
The next ForgeWorld book is Inferno - the Burning of Prospero. It will contain all the rules for the thousand sons, space wolves, their primarchs, specialist units, etc.
The next GW HH box, from what is rumored, will either A) continue the WB vs UM conflict that started in BaC, almost as an expansion of the original boardgame or B) Iron Warriors vs Imperial Fists with MKIII armor instead of MKIV armor (there have been several rumors of a MKIII sprue sighted). There has been speculation (not confirmed or denied by those in the know) that breachers, a predator, and assault marines are in the box.
Many GW managers (as unreliable as they can be, take with a grain of salt) have apparently stated that they were told by Corporate that they will not be able to re-order BaC once their stores sell out. Some stores and distributors still have ample supply, so they should still be up on eBay and other online retailers for a while, and it looks like there are still like 3-4 copies at places like the Dojo, so its probably not a super emergency to go order one/buy one today. But they are going to be discontinued, so that GW can focus on selling the individual boxes that cost an arm and a leg instead of the bundled box set.
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Post by Luke GR on Jul 13, 2016 22:39:36 GMT -6
The next FW book is indeed Prospero (I've been waiting for the Wolves so I'm quite looking forward to this one!)
As for the next box, Sad Panda has confirmed it is a different rule system than Calth so I'm pretty sure it's not an expansion to Calth. He has also pretty much confirmed 1000 Sons for 40k and 30k and from there the Prospero plastics rumor has circulated. He also said a plastic Keeper of Secrets and or Magnus the Red are due this year too. Those fit in with the 40k Space Wolves campaign going on. If it all pans out it seems to be a Space Wolf and Thousand Sons year.
If it still turns out to be IW vs IF that'd be great too as I really want some MK2/3 armor in plastic. And my 30k Space Wolves, both of which should be happening this fall so I'm good regardless.
If BaC goes out of print at least I can still pick up plastic MK4 if needed too so I'm still good!
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Post by Nick P on Jul 14, 2016 19:38:01 GMT -6
Well the 40k thousand sons, lord of change, and magnus are separate from the horus heresy - next year is a big year for chaos in 40k as the campaigns are all focused towards the 13th black crusade. Daemon primarchs are coming back in plastic, greater daemons of tzeentch and slaanesh in plastic, and rubric marines and a Tzeentch Daemon Kin codex are all more or less confirmed for 2017.
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Post by Asyrean on Jul 15, 2016 8:26:36 GMT -6
Daemon primarchs are coming back in plastic Have they ever been available before? (Not arguing, just curious as I'm new to 40k. I assumed this was the first time Daemon Primarchs were being released. But if not, then I want to check them out!)
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Post by Nick P on Jul 15, 2016 8:32:37 GMT -6
They were released for Epic, but not for 28mm 40k. Pretty rad sculpts though, can't wait to see what the new designers can do with plastic!
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Post by Asyrean on Jul 15, 2016 9:04:20 GMT -6
They were released for Epic, but not for 28mm 40k. Pretty rad sculpts though, can't wait to see what the new designers can do with plastic! Groovy! I know this is wishlisting since I'm a Loyalist player, but part of me thinks that if they bring in Demon Primarchs, maybe they should wake up / find the loyalist Primarchs that aren't certified as deceased, in order to give Loyalists an equally awesome / hard hitting character. As a counter to the Chaos kids getting theirs? I know, I know, before anyone says it, this is likely not to happen, unless GW is going to take 40k the "End Times" route. So, this would fall under a "Be careful what you wish for" scenario. But still, if I could have Guilliman, that would be rad.
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