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Post by Nick P on Jun 17, 2016 8:12:42 GMT -6
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Post by dex on Jun 17, 2016 8:31:19 GMT -6
How discounted?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 8:59:20 GMT -6
Looks like each box costs $100, so the break down would look like this:
Stormtalon ($55) & Heldrake ($74) = $29 Savings
Hemlock Fighter ($65) & Dakkajet ($65) = $30 Savings
Sun Shark Bomber ($65) & Night Scythe ($45.50) = $10.50 Savings
*Considering that most online stores offer 20-25% off on pre-sales though, its not a bad deal if you can find someone to split a box*
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Post by 1D3chan on Jun 17, 2016 12:24:53 GMT -6
Some large shifts are coming at the corporate level and it's obvious - start collecting boxes, AOBR Toy Store mini paint+model boxes, all of the minigame boxes (Overkill, Renegades), now the flyers boxes The pre-painted Ultra/Orks kits...  I wonder what it means. I sense a pretty big shift coming. Not an End Times Doomsday but something? Any ideas? No Panic, just curious |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 12:29:27 GMT -6
There is a new CEO, he's been heading all the changes in direction.
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Post by Nick P on Jun 17, 2016 12:42:36 GMT -6
Some large shifts are coming at the corporate level and it's obvious - start collecting boxes, AOBR Toy Store mini paint+model boxes, all of the minigame boxes (Overkill, Renegades), now the flyers boxes The pre-painted Ultra/Orks kits... I wonder what it means. I sense a pretty big shift coming. Not an End Times Doomsday but something? Any ideas? No Panic, just curious These aren't pre-painted, but they are using dyes in the plastic so that new players can pick them up and the Space Marines and the Orks are clearly different straight out of the box. This is in an attempt to get into Walmart, Target, Toys R Us, that sort of thing and attract new players - once hooked, the idea is that they'll go to FLGS's or GW proper and continue the game. I don't sense any big shifts in terms of the storyline or sales model, but its great that the new CEO is actually a person who plays the game too, and has a bit more sense of what the customer wants instead of trying to tell the customer what they want. All these Start Collecting, self contained boxed games, and the news this week that WD is moving back to a monthly model that will include battle reports and hobby articles all indicate GW is making some serious changes for the betterment of its customer base. I for one am ecstatic to see what happens - and keep my fingers crossed, that a return to PROPER warhammer fantasy may be on the horizon in the next couple years. |
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Post by jefferestinpeace on Jun 17, 2016 13:47:53 GMT -6
There's a big push industry-wide to expand tabletop gaming to all the normies too, something the CEO obviously gets. This is in trend with a lot of shit we're doing to try and actually compete with the schmucks at Hasbro. These are essentially targeted at people who buy gifts for other people, and just in time for graduation season. Biggest hurdle is price, so positioning this stuff as a game increases the value without really increasing the cost to help mitigate that price problem, effectively convincing shoppers they're getting their money's worth. As we know, these "games" are quite lame in the long run, but it works wonders on people who don't really know what they're buying, and are probably only operating on the fact that the person they're buying it for "likes games."
It's kinda funny.
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Post by Asyrean on Jun 17, 2016 16:12:07 GMT -6
I for one am ecstatic to see what happens - and keep my fingers crossed, that a return to PROPER warhammer fantasy may be on the horizon in the next couple years. Completely agree with this. (Actually, that makes twice today I agreed with Nick!) I'm really excited in the shift that's been going on and hope it continues. Only point that gives me a little pause is the rumors of a more "streamlined" version, 8th Ed, coming. I think the game could definitely use some streamlining in places, but conversely, I also feel like "streamlining" is a three letter word: "AoS" - But, I'm optimistic that this wont turn out to be the case. Speaking of which, a return to Proper WHFB would be the icing on the cake! Game-wise, this might be a possibility, but unfortunately, I feel like with the death of the fluff and the shift to roundbases, this might be a stretch. Although, proper rules and points would be enough for me to take a serious look into it. |
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Post by rogerspacem on Jun 17, 2016 19:32:30 GMT -6
So when is pre-sales going up? I'm interested in another drake. As for talon I'm not sure.
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Post by Nick P on Jun 18, 2016 11:24:29 GMT -6
Only point that gives me a little pause is the rumors of a more "streamlined" version, 8th Ed, coming. I think the game could definitely use some streamlining in places, but conversely, I also feel like "streamlining" is a three letter word: "AoS" It would be more similar to the change from 2nd to 3rd ed, not necessarily an AoS level of simplification. Back in 2nd ed, you had such convoluted rules, to the point that if you shot a tank you had to see which part of the tank you hit (front most panel of the side armor? The turret on top? A gear on the rear side panel? The door?) And then roll to see what happened, etc and it was a mess. 3rd was the first ruleset that kept it to just side/front/rear armor, simplified shooting and psychic powers and combat. Here's hoping we get back to that. |
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Post by Joelercoaster on Jun 18, 2016 19:08:14 GMT -6
Yeah, look to Necromunda for an idea of what 2nd ed 40k was like. Movement values (not opposed), lots of to-hit and armor-modifiers (also not opposed), and crazy things like being able to throw people off of a ledge.
It works wonders for a skirmish where you have to keep track of all of 12 models, but in a 1500 point game? 2000? I mean, there just comes a point where it stops functioning and starts being a complete drag.
In some ways, previous streamlining has been good, and in others less so. I kind of miss the days where each codex had its list of special rules, and they really were unique to that army. Example; Rending started out as a Tyranid-only thing (essentially their version of power weapons) and was actually better than it is now. However, "fearless" also used to be a "by the unit" special rule, meaning you had upteen different types of "fearless", rather than a single USR that various units/armies have access to.
In the end, it boils down to being nearly impossible to find the perfect solution for everybody. Actually, let's just call it impossible. I think these "games" are a good way to extend sales beyond the "dedicated gamer" group without hurting the game proper, while also offering existing players a "steal" to take advantage of.
Maybe one day Tyranids will even become a part of this whole new phase of the game xD
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Post by Dougtrio on Jun 21, 2016 19:20:26 GMT -6
No Valkyrie box? I hope a new guard flyer is in the works.
JK flyers are stupid.
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Post by doubleback on Jun 22, 2016 9:45:12 GMT -6
As someone newish to the game, I can say it would definitely help to streamline things. The hobby is a giant time sync to begin with, but having to constantly go back and re-check rules for odd little loopholes that apply to one faction or unit and not another makes it hard to pick up for casual gamers who want to hit the ground running.
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