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Post by 1D3chan on Mar 21, 2016 11:23:23 GMT -6
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Post by Nick P on Mar 21, 2016 12:13:38 GMT -6
I already got stuck in there, can't wait to see the answers in "2 weeks"...
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Post by Russell on Mar 21, 2016 13:37:37 GMT -6
"What would you rather fight, one Titan-sized Squig or 100 Squig-sized Titans?"
gonna be super productive
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Post by Dougtrio on Mar 23, 2016 11:52:17 GMT -6
I'm lazy, so somebody please ask them about blasts and multiple levels!
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Post by Nick P on Mar 23, 2016 12:34:12 GMT -6
I'm lazy, so somebody please ask them about blasts and multiple levels! This...is clearly in the rulebook lol |
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Post by Dougtrio on Mar 23, 2016 12:41:28 GMT -6
'Any models under the template are hit'
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Post by Nick P on Mar 23, 2016 13:10:52 GMT -6
Correct; and there is no more differentiation between multiple levels of a building in terms of shooting in 7th edition - so you place the template/blast marker, scatter where necessary, and hit *all* models under the template.
Nothing fancy about it - and fluff wise this makes sense; if I'm launching missiles into a ruin, and one explodes on the second floor, there's a pretty good chance of debris and firey wreckage/bodies hitting the dudes beneath the detonation. And if I walk up to a ruin with a big fuck off flamer, there's going to be burning fuel hitting everything in the immediate vicinity - not just being perfectly chucked up onto the second/third floor of a ruin where I may be trying to aim.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 13:14:39 GMT -6
It does beg the question of whether something under a ledge is targeted or not though, as looking down through the template you would not be able to see them.
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Post by rogerspacem on Mar 23, 2016 14:06:34 GMT -6
I thought it depends on the tournament in which you play? Rules as written, should affect everyone in the ruins. Yet, I know for itc, you only select one level of ruins/building to use your template on, thus not hitting all of them.
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Post by Nick P on Mar 23, 2016 14:54:02 GMT -6
It does beg the question of whether something under a ledge is targeted or not though, as looking down through the template you would not be able to see them. By that logic you can't hit anything if your template is opaque, which many of them are. I think people are looking too deeply into it - it says "everything under the template", so it hits everything under the template. If it doesn't say "only what you can see" or "only on one level", there really isn't any other interpretation outside of house rules that fit. |
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Post by Nick P on Mar 23, 2016 14:55:25 GMT -6
I thought it depends on the tournament in which you play? Rules as written, should affect everyone in the ruins. Yet, I know for itc, you only select one level of ruins/building to use your template on, thus not hitting all of them. Sure, tournaments might make their own rules - such as only two detachments, no allies, no LoW, etc; but the Rules, as written, are something else entirely. That's what FAQs are intended to rectify - mistakes/confusion in the rules proper. TOs using ITC or other rules systems will always impose additional restrictions in an attempt to balance the game. |
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Post by rogerspacem on Mar 23, 2016 15:59:00 GMT -6
I thought it depends on the tournament in which you play? Rules as written, should affect everyone in the ruins. Yet, I know for itc, you only select one level of ruins/building to use your template on, thus not hitting all of them. Sure, tournaments might make their own rules - such as only two detachments, no allies, no LoW, etc; but the Rules, as written, are something else entirely. That's what FAQs are intended to rectify - mistakes/confusion in the rules proper. TOs using ITC or other rules systems will always impose additional restrictions in an attempt to balance the game. Not denying that it is a good question to ask, nor did I disagree with the rules as written. I was mostly wondering why tournaments would try to elaborate on it when the rule seem straight forward. I can understand balancing but even still I question how this will make the game more fair, additionally, how much more time it adds to certain games. Well if gw responds let me know,im curious how they want to handle this. |
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Post by Nick P on Mar 23, 2016 21:11:08 GMT -6
Yeah I've always wondered that too; my best guess is maybe from pressure from the gamers? Like if people kept asking to use 6th ed ruin/blast rules, maybe they just went with it?
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Post by Dougtrio on Mar 24, 2016 8:51:16 GMT -6
Got it, so blasts hit everything below, no questions asked.
I think tournaments (like ITC or whoever) simply 'interpret' the rules in an attempt to balance 40K.
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Post by dennish on Mar 24, 2016 10:52:29 GMT -6
I already got stuck in there, can't wait to see the answers in "2 weeks"... I like how they are trying...cracks me up. Wonder why they went from FAQ e-mail answering, to public Facebook answering. I get it, people can immediately see answers to questions, but this is just turning into a huge shi...fest with people leaving the most obscure comments/questions. I like their effort, dislike their execution. |
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