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Post by doubleback on Jun 2, 2015 14:48:54 GMT -6
I got more than a few Necron specific questions
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 15:11:26 GMT -6
Nick P and Dan K are the only resident Cron' players I think.
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Post by Nick P on Jun 2, 2015 21:39:29 GMT -6
Doubleback I can help you out. What do you need to know my man?
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Post by Dan K on Jun 2, 2015 21:44:47 GMT -6
What'cha need?
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Post by doubleback on Jun 3, 2015 10:34:06 GMT -6
Ok, my main question was whether or not a Royal Court auxiliary had to stay together (I see they do not), but now I'm curious about named special characters. The Diviner looks like a monster once he goes super saiyan, and a couple others look worth the points. Do you use any named characters? Does the overlord used in the Royal court count towards the one required in the reclamation legion, or do I need two overlords if I have both detachments? Is there any reason not to a decurian legion?
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Post by Nick P on Jun 3, 2015 13:43:33 GMT -6
A royal court does not have to stay together - they are not a "unit of characters", just a formation that includes several characters as individual units. Granted, they *can* go together, but you don't have to.
Orikan is boss once he goes super saiyan, but until he does his skills and boosts are almost completely replicated by the special rules of the Decurion itself - so his aura of 4+ Reanimation doesn't matter, so you're basically paying premium points in the hopes that he goes bonkers early in the game. And even then, he's just a basic MC stat wise, which are not too terribly hard to remove from play. I personally don't tend to use any named characters, except I do plan to use - from time to time - what's his name, who gets to choose a new warlord trait every turn.
The overlord in the Royal Court does not count towards the Reclamation Legion - when taking detachments and formations, no model can be counted as a part of both (if that makes sense). Basically, everything is mutually exclusive unless it says otherwise in the rules - so you would need 2 overlords, one for the reclamation legion and one for the royal court.
That being said, royal courts are pretty bunk, unless you really just want a second overlord or special character. Other than that, you're better off spending your points on the Auxiliary formations like Canoptek Harvest, Destroyer Cult, Annihilation Nexus, and Judicator Battalion.
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Post by doubleback on Jun 4, 2015 9:36:22 GMT -6
Without a royal court can I still insert named characters? I confused as to whether the battle forge rules apply to them
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Post by Nick P on Jun 4, 2015 9:56:54 GMT -6
Battle Forged rules apply to EVERYTHING, regardless of character, special character, or not. So if you want to bring special characters, you either need to bring a Decurion detachment with the Royal Court, or you can simply bring a Decurion Detachment in addition to a Combined Arms detachment - you will just have to bring an additional 2 troop choices along with the 1-2 HQ slots you use for your special characters.
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Post by doubleback on Jun 5, 2015 6:55:51 GMT -6
But because the base bonuses of the decurian legion are so good you do not feel a royal court is worth the points? I know those characters can't get in a ghost ark (due to warrior unit size) which kinda seems to limit their usefulness in a lot of units, as Ghost Arks seem crazy good with warriors.
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Post by Nick P on Jun 5, 2015 7:08:29 GMT -6
The only reason to bring a royal court would be for the special characters if you want them. Crypteks give the units they're in a 4+ RP, but you get that anyways for taking a decurion, so cryoteks aren't worth the points. If you want a second overlord, or a special character like Orikan, then it's a good way to go.
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Post by jefferestinpeace on Jun 5, 2015 7:26:41 GMT -6
I've read that more than a few Crons players are taking Crypteks in order to guard against the reduction of RP, still granting a 4+ against ID and S8+, FYI.
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Post by doubleback on Jun 5, 2015 11:48:39 GMT -6
What is ID? And why does S8+ reduce RP, if RP takes place after a unit dies?
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Post by jefferestinpeace on Jun 5, 2015 11:57:05 GMT -6
ID is Instant Death. I believe Necrons that die to an Instant Death attack reduce their RP by 1. If their toughness is doubled by the strike's strength, such as with S8 v T4, the attack counts as having the Instant Death special rule. And RP doesn't take place after the unit dies, it's more an additional save like Feel No Pain.
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Post by doubleback on Jun 5, 2015 16:32:44 GMT -6
Ok here is one for you dead heads, I bought a CCB, should I build it as a CCB, or as an annihilation and an overlord? I heard CCB's were solid to lead a small force (which mine is at best a small reclamation legion) but it just occurred to me that I should ask before I glue.
I fully intend to be there next Wednesday if either of you might be.
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Post by Nick P on Jun 8, 2015 12:48:17 GMT -6
The CCB is pretty solid still, though I prefer to keep my Overlord in a unit of immortals so I don't use one. Annihilation barges are really good as well - honestly, you can't go wrong. There is a use for every model in the Necron codex, so pick whatever you feel like playing with first! You can always add more annihilation barges later!
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