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Post by mike on Nov 4, 2014 0:18:58 GMT -6
Now I sleep on the couch with my shitty book.
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Post by jefferestinpeace on Nov 4, 2014 7:22:11 GMT -6
Nothing's AP 2 Mike, except Deep Striking Monstrous Creatures.
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Post by jefferestinpeace on Nov 4, 2014 7:22:31 GMT -6
LOOK HOW SWEET THIS SPORE LOOKS:
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Post by Joelercoaster on Nov 4, 2014 7:34:04 GMT -6
Quick, someone buy the kit so I can get an appropriate size for my spore pod conversions!
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Post by Nick P on Nov 4, 2014 8:03:58 GMT -6
That thing has TWO clits? Man, wyches only have 1!!!! And they're not even AP2!!!!
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Post by jefferestinpeace on Nov 4, 2014 8:36:29 GMT -6
I'M NOT EVEN AP 2
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Post by mike on Nov 4, 2014 13:25:00 GMT -6
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Post by Nick P on Nov 5, 2014 10:26:44 GMT -6
So apparently this kit builds either the drop pod or the sporocyst + mutoclid...but not 3 mutoclids. So you would need to buy three of them to get a brood of mutoclids ($180 for 45 points). BULL.
I'm for sure going to be converting these mofos - Its not like tentacles are hard to come by? Shit man, 2 year olds can make Green Stuff tentacles in their sleep.
But I will definitely be getting at least 2 pods, and I see the value in the sporocyst too...might have to try that a few times as well. I wonder how well this kit magnetizes? Doesn't look to be too difficult...the top half of the pod is basically the sporocyst...except with the plating extended further. Hmm. I'm betting that with 10 magnet points we can make this a dual kit.
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Post by Joelercoaster on Nov 5, 2014 10:42:16 GMT -6
I mean, with my leftover Tervi-sacs, and some GS plates/tentacles, I would bet I could rummage up a passable spore pod, or burrow pod.
So I think I'm starting to see more utility in the burrow-pod, mainly with flyers. While it can only produce a big spore once a game, it shoots out 6", and then can assault (probably only another 3-4", but still). The base is not tiny, so you have a 9-10" threat bubble around this guy that says "good luck, flyers, try to come near me".
It's... definitely a deterrent. And, to boot, you can toss it near an objective and just force the enemy to deal with it for 75 points (and with what, 6 wounds? Generally not the easiest thing to shift). It's an annoyance, probably best for mid-field, but a funny and interesting annoyance that may be worth the fairly low cost.
As for the actual price? Meh. Wait for China, if you want. It'll only be a few weeks before you can pick up those big spores for $15 or so. Shoot, there are enough of us that we could go in for a big group order and probably get a big discount. If I hadn't hit negative funding, I was going to pick up a 2nd Heirophant, because the guy was going to give me a leg to fix the original (that I ended up getting my money back for) for FREE. Once I get back on my feet, I'll probably give that guy (or lady? Not sure) another E-mail.
These things are begging to be sculpted out of green stuff and spare armor plates, though. Speaking of, does anyone have any spare Tervigon belly-sacs that they don't want? Because... reasons. And Carnifex back plates. Those too.
PS - taking 2-3 broods of giant spores (maybe 2 each? Total of less than 100 points) to place with your army and just gently float forward... you want AA? You're basically daring the enemy to come close. And it's not like the idea of hitting a unit with a S8-9 AP3 large blast (ignoring cover and such) is bad in and of itself.
.... time to find a way to build those. Or, shoot, see how much the current FW giant spores cost. They're likely the same size, and again, China. Probably pick up a slew of them for $50 or so.
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Post by Nick P on Nov 5, 2014 11:16:52 GMT -6
Oh my god! the FW spore floaty things!!! Joel, you mad genius - we have to order them, let's go in on like...15 of them together. Ok great.
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Post by Joelercoaster on Nov 5, 2014 11:24:12 GMT -6
Uhh.... I can pay you in cookies, right? Yeah. That'll be good. How much are the FW direct things anyway? I didn't see any recasts. It may be worth waiting a few weeks to see if Ali or others produce the new kit more cheaply (although the quality is still way better on the real stuff).
Gah, this sort of super-cheap-yet-painful distraction is in and of itself a boon to Nids... plus it can assault flyers. So easy to throw into a list, and a great tool to complicate target priority.
Plus, this really, really stands out as a Nid thing. We don't even have "people" as our units, we have literal floating spore-bombs as troops. How alien is that??
Srsly Nick - go buy like 5 Tyranno's so I can use the tervi-sacs. Do it. Do it right meow.
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Post by Russell on Nov 5, 2014 11:55:07 GMT -6
Are flyers really a thorn in nids side? Seems like the ubiquitous dual flyrant is all the anti air one needs. But no, Jeff has to go and bring four fliers. Screw you, Jeff.
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Post by Nick P on Nov 5, 2014 12:15:42 GMT -6
They're not specifically AA, but give us a dirt cheap AA option in a pinch. More so, they're going to be 45 point S10 AP3 large blasts that we can deepstrike on top of opponents like living orbital bombardment. But, if we deploy them normally, and hover them around midfield...yeah, they can charge and destroy a flyer in a pinch.
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Post by jefferestinpeace on Nov 5, 2014 12:20:27 GMT -6
Sorry to burst ya'lls bubbles, but the FW Meiotic Spores are about half the size of the Mucolids, and I daresay on purpose. Unless someone's playing nice, I don't think it's gonna fly. Mucolids are taller than a freaking Tyrant.
It is pretty lame we can't get the Mucolids separately, but I would hold out some hope. It seems like a kit that GW could make a shitload of money off of, as every Nid player will instantly buy a pack of 3 of those, especially if they have unique casts. I wonder if we could find something from a third party.
As for their usefulness, I love it. Both that and the Sporocyst. Such huge deterrents, annoying pieces of shit that people have to plan around because they will hurt otherwise. Not totally hard to kill, but it requires a commitment of resources. I mean, those Spores even have 3 wounds. It's awesome. I fully plan on trying lists with the Mucolids as troops and at least one Sporocyst. Who knows what kind of formations we're gonna get though, you know? We might see some fantastic stuff in store.
Who the fuck is Russell?
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Post by Nick P on Nov 5, 2014 12:30:07 GMT -6
I wonder if we could find something from a third party. I hear GW's all about that these days. I think our best bet is going to be to grab toxicrene arms off ebay and use excess bits from the sporocyte kits to kit bash our own. Luckily there's no shortage of tentacles and piping and gribbly bits from every single one of our kits - should be easy enough. Plus I think we'll see the mutoclid bits showing up on ebay for like $15 a pop, so shouldn't be too terrible, though still expensive for a 45 point unit. Are the meiotic spores really that much smaller? They look decently tall on FW - and they're on the same 40mm base as the mutoclid...
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