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Post by rogerspacem on Sept 5, 2017 16:48:36 GMT -6
Fyi:
Visited the store. Currently they only have two actual boards built, but no terrain. They are in the process of making their terrain. They do have plenty of tables to put together to get a decent sized board. No used minis bins like dojo. Otherwise they seemed pretty friendly, and are happy for us to come down on Thursday. Prices on the minis seem to be the same as dojo.
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Sept 5, 2017 19:34:43 GMT -6
Thanks for the intel roger
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Post by Asyrean on Sept 6, 2017 11:10:28 GMT -6
Fyi: Visited the store. Currently they only have two actual boards built, but no terrain. They are in the process of making their terrain. They do have plenty of tables to put together to get a decent sized board. No used minis bins like dojo. Otherwise they seemed pretty friendly, and are happy for us to come down on Thursday. Prices on the minis seem to be the same as dojo. Did they have a decent selection? |
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Post by Nick P on Sept 6, 2017 13:42:13 GMT -6
Everyone keeps talking about prices - is this a joke or did people actually think different hobby stores had different prices on GW?
I really want to get out there and check it out once they have terrain up and running - any timeline on when they hope to have that done? Or should we bring out our own?
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Sept 6, 2017 13:57:11 GMT -6
Everyone keeps talking about prices - is this a joke or did people actually think different hobby stores had different prices on GW? I really want to get out there and check it out once they have terrain up and running - any timeline on when they hope to have that done? Or should we bring out our own? Yeah, people think I'm joking but lots of hobby stores price GW stuff at significantly lower prices than GW's list price. Frontline gaming and the war store are 2 prominent online retailers that sell at 15% off (used to be 20%), but its pretty standard for brick and mortar too. Seriously, its the reason i dont buy everything at the dojo. |
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Post by doubleback on Sept 6, 2017 14:44:40 GMT -6
We could all get together and make some terrain. I find making terrain oddly entertaining
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Post by Nick P on Sept 6, 2017 15:00:17 GMT -6
I know that online retailers have always had discounts ranging from 15% to 25%, but I've never seen that in a brick and mortar, and am pretty certain their contracts with GW prevent them from undercutting their own pricing on in-store merchandise. But I could be wrong.
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Post by Andy on Sept 6, 2017 15:06:38 GMT -6
Warstore sells at full price in their retail store. Their store was actually pretty famous as being something of a destination for tournaments. Now it is more retail oriented.
Frontline Gaming's "store" is at 2785 Kurtz St. CA 92110.
How much gaming do you think gets done in that lock-up?
The bottom line is that if you want to game you have to pay for it.
A magic tournament pays a store about $60 (not net profit, just gross income) per 6'x4' table.
We should try to drop a similar amount for our tables.
Stores make it easy if they can sell us drinks or special/pre- orders. It is tough if all we have to buy are the things on the shelves.
And try to pay cash. It is an easy thing for us to do and small businesses can pay 10% on their cc transactions.
It is also worth remembering that the GW retail support program rewards stores with a lot of great stuff if their sales are solid. This comes back to us in the form of great terrain, prize support and the new GW event kits.
Easily more value than the discount.
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Post by Russell on Sept 6, 2017 15:37:00 GMT -6
I'm not sure how many of you guys got to visit Wanderer's Refuge or even Galactic Force before they both had to close. Both were great stores to play games at and I think we all became friends with the owner of Wanderer's (Andy worked at GF for a bit but he's no one's friend). Since he has first hand experience, Andy is very outspoken about this subject.
Aileen, in an upsetting FB post announcing the store's closing, said that a lot of people off the street would walk in to Wanderer's, demo games and then leave and just buy them on Amazon for a discount or free shipping or whatever.
I won't lie, I used to bemoan the pricing, especially in the dark days of the Kirby era (and the $60 Witch Elves) but I've become more sensitive to just how profit neutral a lot of gaming stores are. I'd say Dice Dojo and Games Plus in Mt. Prospect are anomalies and we're super lucky to have them nearby. That's why we're very excited about the prospect of a new store that we can potentially support. It's also why some of us can come across as a little acerbic when people start talking about pricing and being burdened with paying retail prices for minis.
It's not healthy for our gaming group for me to say "If you bitch about prices I'm gonna ban you". It would be a little hypocritical because, as I said before, I was of a similar mindset until that mindset resulted in the closing of some great small businesses. I'm also not saying you're bitching about prices. But what I am saying is that if saving $10 by ordering something somewhere else is worth more to you than paying full price at the store you'll be using those minis at, then I urge you to reconsider your buying habits.
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Sept 6, 2017 15:47:47 GMT -6
To be clear, im not bitching about prices. I simply asked how theyre priced, as it would obviously make them more competitive. Its normal to do that. Ive been to stores (not in chicago) that charge less than gw. Its a reasonable thing to ask.
I value the dojo and i spend lots of my hard-earned money there (to be as cliche as possible). Especially when, as you said, the difference is $10.
But since you mention it, its obviously a tough decision when i can pay $110 for deathwatch overkill or $160 in a store. It would be great if that choice was easier.
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Post by Russell on Sept 6, 2017 16:03:58 GMT -6
To be clear, im not bitching about prices. I understand, I did try to reiterate that point. But since you mention it, its obviously a tough decision when i can pay $110 for deathwatch overkill or $160 in a store. It would be great if that choice was easier. Sure, that's a big discount (almost 35% since the kit is $165 retail). Maybe you're just trying to make a point but I've never seen a store that has that deep a discount unless they're just trying to clear inventory. I'm being pedantic but I get your point, it's a tough decision to make. What tips the scales for some of us is whether or not you'll be using those toys in the store. It sounds like we all share the same sentiments. |
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Post by Eric formerly Eric on Sept 6, 2017 16:13:04 GMT -6
Yeah youre definitely right on that. Cost of using store space is hard to take into account when buying products but its definitely not an unfair tradeoff. I doubt charging gaming/entrance fees is a workable model anyway, and that seems like the only alternative.
Off that topic, did they have the terrain already? Cause we could probably go in on a thursday and help build/paint it.
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Post by rogerspacem on Sept 6, 2017 16:35:19 GMT -6
Jesus this post got serious... Well to answer questions:
Do they have terrain? No. Currently they are making it.
What's their selection? Mostly chaos marines and space marines. Think of those boards that have some cool pictures for nurgle and primius marines and that's all they really have.
In essence it's a new store and they have the latest products only. They do have data cards but just for new stuff.
To piggy back on doublebacks (the real Eric ;-) ) I think we should ask if they want us to build terrain. I was going to suggest it, but I wanted to see what you guys think on Thursday when we go there to play. I'm hundred and beyond percent confident that if we tell then we'll build them terrain they are going to say yes. Besides when I told them we might swing by the girl at the counter nearly jumped with joy.
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Post by Russell on Sept 6, 2017 16:41:44 GMT -6
I'll take the blame for that; I'm still a little upset that Wanderer's closed.
I'm gonna stop by on my way home from work tomorrow evening. I won't have any minis, but I'd like to scope out the scene. From the pictures on the website, it looks like they have a fair amount of gaming space. What time are folks planning on stopping by?
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Post by rogerspacem on Sept 6, 2017 17:14:59 GMT -6
I'll take the blame for that; I'm still a little upset that Wanderer's closed. I'm gonna stop by on my way home from work tomorrow evening. I won't have any minis, but I'd like to scope out the scene. From the pictures on the website, it looks like they have a fair amount of gaming space. What time are folks planning on stopping by? Russell, don't sweat it man. I still feel the pain in my hear that's wanderer's. I rather not have another gaming store close, especially one that supports tabletops (which is why I jog/walk over to this store to check it out.) for gaming space trust me, it's pretty big. I think 12 tables. Not very wide, but pretty long. You took that question out of my mouth. I'll try to be there around 5pm (probably closer to 5:30pm.) I don't have much terrain (it's just the hero scape tile blocks) but I'll bring it along. |
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