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Post by Russell on Aug 27, 2018 8:58:13 GMT -6
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Post by Nick P on Sept 4, 2018 7:57:12 GMT -6
I didn't think I'd be getting any hobby done this weekend, since our little one had surgery to remove a dermoid cyst on Thursday, but kids bounce back way faster than I thought - she was her normal self even as of thursday night, mere hours after surgery. Normal sleep schedule, eating, you name it. Which meant hobby time was back on the menu! I wanted to do a bit of a palette cleanser after so much 40k and AoS being painted, so I got stuck in on my A Song of Ice and Fire miniatures with a couple of test models for both the Stark and Lannister sides. If you've never painted board gaming quality minis (I haven't), its a bit different than what you're used to. The details are shallow, and the plastic is often rubbery and bendy, rather than sharp and sturdy. The mold lines are also borderline impossible to remove - rather than scraping them off or slicing them off, they just kinda...bend...when you apply pressure lol So rather than getting good mileage of out washes and drybrushing (except on greywind, the fur texture worked pretty well for drybrushes), you really do have to paint the details on where you want them in full, rather than letting the texture of the model itself do some of the work. Definitely a different style of painting, using sketch highlights to do the detail work for you, but a fun experience. Rob Stark: Greywind: Nameless Stark Goon 1: Jaime Lannister (with unfinished base): I'll be painting up the nameless lannister stooge tonight, and once I have both the lannister and stark color palettes down, I'll be able to churn through the rest of the troops pretty quick I think.
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Post by jesse on Sept 4, 2018 11:26:59 GMT -6
It's a shame to hear that the miniature quality is low: I had been hoping to blast through them with a lot of airbrush work, but it sounds like that might not be so easy.
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Post by cj on Sept 4, 2018 11:43:09 GMT -6
I'm having a different experience, granted I'm only working on the House Clegane stuff at the moment, but my airbrush, some dry brushing, and some washes have made painting things pretty easy. That said, I'm not looking for super high level quality, just tabletop acceptable.
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Post by Nick P on Sept 4, 2018 13:08:03 GMT -6
It's a shame to hear that the miniature quality is low: I had been hoping to blast through them with a lot of airbrush work, but it sounds like that might not be so easy. I wouldn't say the quality is low by any means - just different. The plastics GW make are really the only minis I've ever painted, so take what I say with a grain of salt. The detail they achieve with their plastics are just incredibly crisp, and since these minis are hand sculpted and cast in a softer rubbery plastic, it stands to reason the details wouldn't be as deep, but they are still there. I do think that a lot of airbrush work will do wonders, that's how I plan on tackling the rank and file models. I did these by hand, but you by no means have to. Just some of the texture details on the fabric are the main culprits for needing brush detailing, but even then that's only if you really want the texture to show - painting it flat with a wash and a highlight is absolutely doable. cj - I think the chunkier, more heavily armored models will have a lot sharper of detail for the armor plates and weapons, so I'm looking forward to painting those up. The starks are mostly fabric, and that's the only rank and file model I've painted so far, so take what I say with a grain of salt. I'm sure painting the lannisters and cleganes and tullys (with more armor and sharper details) will be easier and quicker.
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Post by jesse on Sept 4, 2018 13:10:23 GMT -6
Maybe the Lannisters have fewer mold lines because they can afford better molds
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Post by Nick P on Sept 4, 2018 13:14:31 GMT -6
Maybe the Lannisters have fewer mold lines because they can afford better molds Actually no joke, this seems to be the case. The way the models are made by Dark Sword Miniatures is the bulk of the model is cast in that same softer plastic that warmahordes are made with, but the weapons and armor details and shields are cast in a sharper, harder plastic and then they're glued together before shipping. So the lannister models, with more armor, have more of that sharper detailing on them, which is hilarious.
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Post by Nick P on Sept 6, 2018 9:14:13 GMT -6
Finished Jaime's base and did some touchups on the cape/gold trim: Tonight I'll be building some nighthaunt (got some bladegheists lets gooo) and finishing my test lannister model, and then probably nothing else since football is back and I'm easily distracted by brown balls being handled by men who hit each other.
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Post by Nick P on Sept 12, 2018 9:25:09 GMT -6
Didn't get as much hobby done over the weekend or this week as I'd have liked to, but did manage to finish my Iron Throne for ASOIAF miniatures, as well as my Lannister guard scheme which will be really easy to replicate, and one of the 6 movement trays for my starks. C&C please! The Whole Enchilada: Lannister Guard scheme - black and red, my favorite: Movement Tray! There is something super therapeutic about doing base work, I love it: I've got all 24 (here's 12 of them) of my stark sworn swords and 2 shield captains with the grey layers airbrushed ready for detail work as well - I just need to pick out the chainmail and weapons in leadbelcher, the leather in rhinox hide, the fur in gorthor brown, the faces in bugmans glow, hit them with a wash, and then do a couple highlights on the face and fur and shields just to make them the focal point. <iframe width="25" height="33.460000000000036" style="position: absolute; width: 25px; height: 33.46px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 5px; top: 84px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_20054927" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25" height="33.460000000000036" style="position: absolute; width: 25px; height: 33.46px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1178px; top: 84px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_76377337" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25" height="33.460000000000036" style="position: absolute; width: 25px; height: 33.46px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 5px; top: 1674px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_51903892" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="25" height="33.460000000000036" style="position: absolute; width: 25px; height: 33.46px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1178px; top: 1674px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_14110215" scrolling="no"></iframe>
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Post by Nick P on Sept 12, 2018 9:26:12 GMT -6
Oh and I managed to get my dark eldar flyers all airbrushed as well last night - next up, edge highlights on the armor plates (like the voidraven in the middle), metallics, and then seemingly unending gemstones.
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Post by cj on Sept 12, 2018 9:42:47 GMT -6
Voidravens look sharp! The Stark stuff looks very good, nicely done on the grey. The only critique I would have is the use of metallics on the Lannister cloth. It doesn't look bad by any stretch, I personally just don't like using metallic paint on what is supposed to be a fabric.
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Post by jesse on Sept 12, 2018 10:57:46 GMT -6
The stuff looks good Nick, especially the Voidravens. The color transitions look great, as does the hex patterns.
You might want to consider putting a gloss or something on the shoulder pads and wrist guards of the Lannister Guard, just to make it look a bit more like a lacquered armour sort of thing to differentiate it from the cloth. And I'm not big on the gold stripe on the helmet: it makes me think of a space marine helmet.
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Post by Nick P on Sept 12, 2018 11:00:46 GMT -6
Voidravens look sharp! The Stark stuff looks very good, nicely done on the grey. The only critique I would have is the use of metallics on the Lannister cloth. It doesn't look bad by any stretch, I personally just don't like using metallic paint on what is supposed to be a fabric. I completely agree, I would have done yellow but I don't seem to own any darker/mid yellows, and got impatient. I'll have to run out and get some averland sunset tonight and give it another go - I don't think it looks bad in gold, I just think it would look better in yellow probably.
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Post by Nick P on Sept 12, 2018 11:02:15 GMT -6
The stuff looks good Nick, especially the Voidravens. The color transitions look great, as does the hex patterns. You might want to consider putting a gloss or something on the shoulder pads and wrist guards of the Lannister Guard, just to make it look a bit more like a lacquered armour sort of thing to differentiate it from the cloth. And I'm not big on the gold stripe on the helmet: it makes me think of a space marine helmet. You know, I wasn't sure about the gold stripe on the helmet, but its growing on me - its what it shows in the art so I just went with it. It helps break up all the red, and draw the eye to the otherwise pretty detail-less head/face, so I'm all for it. And I agree with the gloss varnish idea - I'll give that a shot. My other idea was to paint them very bright silver and use the citadel red gemstone paint, but I'm not sure how good it would look on such a large surface (or how consistent it would look for that matter). EDIT: Actually, looking at some of the preliminary artwork, and even some of the models CMON painted for the game, some of the lannisters guards just have all of their armor plates in silver metallics- maybe I'll go that route, just so there's no issue of cloth and armor looking similar. Or maybe I'll do a few random ones in each unit with that set up, just for flavor.
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Post by jesse on Sept 12, 2018 11:11:07 GMT -6
If you thin down the red gemstone a lot and do a few coats, that might help make it consistent, but I'm not sure.
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